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First video ever played on MTV......
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(January 29, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Ranjr Wrote:


My heart broke a little when Airplane morphed into Starship.  <sob>
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#42
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MTV killed classic rock.  Bands that mostly rocked, REO, Foreigner, Journey and so on, became balladeers.  Heart, not even dolled-up and skin tight Nancy could make up for What About Love.  Worst of all, it led to hair bands.
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#43
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(January 29, 2020 at 6:11 pm)Ranjr Wrote: MTV killed classic rock.  Bands that mostly rocked, REO, Foreigner, Journey and so on, became balladeers.  Heart, not even dolled-up and skin tight Nancy could make up for What About Love.  Worst of all, it led to hair bands.

Yup. Turned out The Buggles were pretty damned prescient.

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Once the music came second to the visual the music seemed an afterthought. A catchy hook and the right look became the formula. Not that there weren't a few good songs along the way but without a video people wanted to see there wasn't much chance of a song rising to the top.

I remember back in the day barely being able to wait for an album to arrive at the Five and Dime in my little midwestern town so that I could find out what the musicians/singers/bands looked like. How else was I going to see the people I was listening to on the late night transmissions from KAAY. Oddly, a station in Arkansas that boosted its signal late at night and played the stuff the top 40 stations weren't playing. Our other fix for 'not top 40' was WLS out of Chicago. So we waited and memorized the album covers and felt cheated when there were no, or few, photos. How else was I going to know what Jim Dandy looked like if it weren't for an album cover - Black Oak Arkansas wasn't exactly the kind of act for American Bandstand.
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(January 29, 2020 at 2:55 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Ranjr Wrote:


My heart broke a little when Airplane morphed into Starship.  <sob>

I actually  like that song over their 60s hippy stuff.
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(January 29, 2020 at 8:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 2:55 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: My heart broke a little when Airplane morphed into Starship.  <sob>

I actually  like that song over their 60s hippy stuff.

Listen to a video of Grace Slick belting out 'White Rabbit'.  You may want to look into the book 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' by Lewis Carroll (another English writer) in order to understand some of the references made.  

Ain't it amazing how many songs refer back to literature?

Some of that 'hippie (not hippy) stuff' was damn good.  



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RE: First video ever played on MTV......
(January 29, 2020 at 9:56 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 8:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I actually  like that song over their 60s hippy stuff.

Listen to a video of Grace Slick belting out 'White Rabbit'.  You may want to look into the book 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' by Lewis Carroll (another English writer) in order to understand some of the references made.  

Ain't it amazing how many songs refer back to literature?

Some of that 'hippie (not hippy) stuff' was damn good.  




It isn't a matter of knocking the literature lyrics. I actually like the liberal messages of the lyrics of the 60s/70s, just not the music style.

Lots of folks of that era love Bob Dylan. As far as social awareness I get that. But I do not like his voice. I think he is a great guy, but I never got into his sound.  

Pat Benatar will never be widely known for this following song "Tough Life", but looking back at it now, the lyrics remind  me of the trust fund brat Trump is proving to be.



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RE: First video ever played on MTV......
(January 29, 2020 at 10:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 9:56 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Listen to a video of Grace Slick belting out 'White Rabbit'.  You may want to look into the book 'Alice's Adventures in Wonderland' by Lewis Carroll (another English writer) in order to understand some of the references made.  

Ain't it amazing how many songs refer back to literature?

Some of that 'hippie (not hippy) stuff' was damn good.  




It isn't a matter of knocking the literature lyrics. I actually like the liberal messages of the lyrics of the 60s/70s, just not the music style.

Lots of folks of that era love Bob Dylan. As far as social awareness I get that. But I do not like his voice. I think he is a great guy, but I never got into his sound.  

Pat Benatar will never be widely known for this following song "Tough Life", but looking back at it now, the lyrics remind  me of the trust fund brat Trump is proving to be.




I tend to agree that Dylan can be an acquired taste.  Many of my friends back in my hippie days were into him so I heard his music enough to get past his usual singing style and appreciate the lyrics.  However, one of my favorite songs is a Dylan song.  It is one where he sounds very different from his other songs of that time.  I find it a beautifully honest love song. He is asking to be seen for what is and not for what he seems to be on the outside.  His other songs were more about the message to me.  In Lay, Lady, Lay I appreciate the music, the lyrics, and his delivery.





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RE: First video ever played on MTV......
(January 29, 2020 at 10:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 10:11 pm)Brian37 Wrote: It isn't a matter of knocking the literature lyrics. I actually like the liberal messages of the lyrics of the 60s/70s, just not the music style.

Lots of folks of that era love Bob Dylan. As far as social awareness I get that. But I do not like his voice. I think he is a great guy, but I never got into his sound.  

Pat Benatar will never be widely known for this following song "Tough Life", but looking back at it now, the lyrics remind  me of the trust fund brat Trump is proving to be.




I tend to agree that Dylan can be an acquired taste.  Many of my friends back in my hippie days were into him so I heard his music enough to get past his usual singing style and appreciate the lyrics.  However, one of my favorite songs is a Dylan song.  It is one where he sounds very different from his other songs of that time.  I find it a beautifully honest love song. He is asking to be seen for what is and not for what he seems to be on the outside.  His other songs were more about the message to me.  In Lay, Lady, Lay I appreciate the music, the lyrics, and his delivery.




Acquired taste? He is a great guy, he had a pulse on what was wrong with the world, in all our bullshit fighting, but do this. Mentally take his voice, and take any  holiday song and sing it in his voice to yourself.

"Shhuuooood ooolddd aaaaa quantance beeee foor got, annddd neeeeever bought toooooo minnnned."
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Go back up and view my hippie days pic.

(January 29, 2020 at 10:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 29, 2020 at 10:27 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: I tend to agree that Dylan can be an acquired taste.  Many of my friends back in my hippie days were into him so I heard his music enough to get past his usual singing style and appreciate the lyrics.  However, one of my favorite songs is a Dylan song.  It is one where he sounds very different from his other songs of that time.  I find it a beautifully honest love song. He is asking to be seen for what is and not for what he seems to be on the outside.  His other songs were more about the message to me.  In Lay, Lady, Lay I appreciate the music, the lyrics, and his delivery.




Acquired taste? He is a great guy, he had a pulse on what was wrong with the world, in all our bullshit fighting, but do this. Mentally take his voice, and take any  holiday song and sing it in his voice to yourself.

"Shhuuooood ooolddd aaaaa quantance beeee foor got, annddd neeeeever bought toooooo minnnned."

What I meant is that his voice can be an acquired tasted.  I didn't ever have an issue with his lyrics.  Lay, Lady, Lay his voice and pacing was more mainstream.
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