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What’s Left?
#11
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 12:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But seriously folks...

Given Trump's egregiously illegal behaviour, what would Trump (or any future president) have to do to get impeached?  Murder with witnesses?  Selling off surplus states and pocketing the money?  If interfering with witnesses, attempting to suborn your elections, ignoring Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it isn't enough to be removed from office, what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' are enough?

Boru

I honestly believe he could do anything and not lose his support. Anything.
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#12
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 12:22 pm)Mermaid Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 12:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But seriously folks...

Given Trump's egregiously illegal behaviour, what would Trump (or any future president) have to do to get impeached?  Murder with witnesses?  Selling off surplus states and pocketing the money?  If interfering with witnesses, attempting to suborn your elections, ignoring Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it isn't enough to be removed from office, what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' are enough?

Boru

I honestly believe he could do anything and not lose his support. Anything.

The same is true of any ( D ).....

Kwame Kilpatrick sat in jail and his supporters were still loyal.....

Rod Blagojevich sits in prison - and I'm willing to bet he could run for office and win.....
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#13
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 11:13 am)onlinebiker Wrote: But pissing and moaning about the rules and laws and calling a legal election "theft"  is some seriously whiney shit.

It would be lovely if everybody took that advice to heart.
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#14
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 12:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 12:22 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I honestly believe he could do anything and not lose his support. Anything.

The same is true of any ( D ).....

I think that's complete bullshit.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
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#15
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 2:13 pm)Mermaid Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 12:32 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The same is true of any ( D ).....

I think that's complete bullshit.
I guess that makes you a "True Believer ©"
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#16
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 3:04 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 2:13 pm)Mermaid Wrote: I think that's complete bullshit.
I guess that makes you a "True Believer ©"
What do you mean by this?
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.

-Homer Simpson
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#17
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 8:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s a dead cert that Trump is going to be acquitted next week. The thread running through Republican arguments for acquittal seem to be that nothing Trump did rises to the level of being removed from office.

-He illegally withheld the Ukraine aid.

-He illegally solicited foreign interference in a US election.

-He illegally attempted a cover-up of that solicitation.

-He illegally ordered people in his administration to ignore Congressional subpoenas.

-He illegally engaged in witness intimidation.

-He illegally used non-government personnel to carry out foreign policy.

If these acts (and others too numerous to list) don’t merit his removal from office, what’s left that does?

Boru

I 100% agree with you.

It is absolutely scary to me that he pulled a Nixon on Meth, but the GOP is nothing but a cult now. Nixon at least had the decency to step down after he got caught. If Obama had been accused of the same thing the GOP would most certainly call for his hide to be booted.
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#18
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 5:14 pm)Mermaid Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 3:04 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: I guess that makes you a "True Believer ©"
What do you mean by this?

Only a "True Believer ( C )" - be they of religion or politics actually believe that they joined the "good" side and all the evil people go to that other church, or join that other political party.

Trust me - the ( R )s all think the ( D )s are the wrong or evil side - just like you think the ( R )s are.
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#19
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 12:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But seriously folks...

Given Trump's egregiously illegal behaviour, what would Trump (or any future president) have to do to get impeached?  Murder with witnesses?  Selling off surplus states and pocketing the money?  If interfering with witnesses, attempting to suborn your elections, ignoring Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it isn't enough to be removed from office, what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' are enough?

Boru

The hypocrisy of using the word "illegal", not by you, but by the GOP, is that Ken Star, Lindsey Graham, and Alan Dershowitz long ago claimed that impeachment did not have to be about a literal crime, but argued fitness when they went after Bill. Now they are saying "abuse of power" isn't a criminal offense?

The GOP are making shit up now. If Nixon was wrong, Trump is wrong on steroids, meth and bath salts, heroin, crack, and ruffies.

Imagine if Obama had said, "Nigeria, I need you to do me a favor though" regarding McCain or Romney. Turtleman Moscow Mitch and his band of minions would call for blood.
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#20
RE: What’s Left?
(February 1, 2020 at 5:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(February 1, 2020 at 12:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But seriously folks...

Given Trump's egregiously illegal behaviour, what would Trump (or any future president) have to do to get impeached?  Murder with witnesses?  Selling off surplus states and pocketing the money?  If interfering with witnesses, attempting to suborn your elections, ignoring Congressional subpoenas and all the rest of it isn't enough to be removed from office, what 'high crimes and misdemeanors' are enough?

Boru

The hypocrisy of using the word "illegal", not by you, but by the GOP, is that Ken Star, Lindsey Graham, and Alan Dershowitz long ago claimed that impeachment did not have to be about a literal crime, but argued fitness when they went after Bill. Now they are saying "abuse of power" isn't a criminal offense?

The GOP are making shit up now. If Nixon was wrong, Trump is wrong on steroids, meth and bath salts, heroin, crack, and ruffies.

Imagine if Obama had said, "Nigeria, I need you to do me a favor though" regarding McCain or Romney. Turtleman Moscow Mitch and his band of minions would call for blood.
they probably would impeach him - and the ( D )s would let it slide.....


Par the course.
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