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Official live update of spread of COVID19
RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 5, 2021 at 3:38 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Question...

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And

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And

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The obvious answer is that the vaccines are not so effective after all...
They made a scientific claim that these vaccines would end the pandemic... 
That claim has been well and truly refuted

Are you retarded?
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
Are you a good driver? If yes, then why do you wear a seatbelt?

Does your seatbelt work? If yes, then why does your car have an airbag?
Why is it so?
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
For those who are vaccinated, if they do come down with COVID, they tend not to become sick enough to end up in the hospital or dead.

That would seem to be a plus as far as I'm concerned.
  
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
Ronaldo is on the fast track to becoming a Vickie.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 5, 2021 at 5:01 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The vaccines WILL end the pandemic, as soon as people stop fighting to keep the pandemic alive.

Boru
I know right

(September 5, 2021 at 11:00 am)Spongebob Wrote: Are you a good driver?  If yes, then why do you wear a seatbelt?

Does your seatbelt work?  If yes, then why does your car have an airbag?
Hell, why do you have breaks? shouldn't the seatbelt or the airbags stop from getting hurt? This is the level of logic we're dealing with. It's a straight-up Nirvana fallacy.

What is the answer to his recent packet of stupid memes? 

Him and people like him are the reason. The vaccine as much of a miracle can't immunize us from human stupidity and selfishness.
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 5, 2021 at 3:38 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Question...

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Because A) Nowhere near enough people have had the shot to ensure herd immunity, and B) even in cases where the vaccine has been effective and widespread enough to render a disease rare, exactly two diseases have been fully eradicated so far: smallpox and rinderpest.

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Because some vaccines just need multiple doses to be fully effective. The polio and tetanus vaccines are well-known examples that nobody but rabid anti-vaxxers question.
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I refer you to the first question. Specifically the part where not enough people have been vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. And, for the record, while no vaccine is 100% effective, the science says that if enough people become immune (and the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have efficacy rates over 90%), it ceases to be much of a problem. And people who make bullshit arguments against masks and vaccines are, ironically, the #1 reason that masks are still an issue. Better safe than sorry. Kindly read up on how exactly herd immunity and vaccines work before talking shit.

Also, I expected better from you, Germany:

Quote:A man has injured two members of a vaccination team in eastern Germany after he demanded a vaccination certificate without wanting to get vaccinated and was denied it.

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-bus...2f5a8f7255
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 5, 2021 at 11:02 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(September 5, 2021 at 3:38 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Question...

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Because A) Nowhere near enough people have had the shot to ensure herd immunity, and B) even in cases where the vaccine has been effective and widespread enough to render a disease rare, exactly two diseases have been fully eradicated so far: smallpox and rinderpest.

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Because some vaccines just need multiple doses to be fully effective. The polio and tetanus vaccines are well-known examples that nobody but rabid anti-vaxxers question.
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I refer you to the first question. Specifically the part where not enough people have been vaccinated to achieve herd immunity. And, for the record, while no vaccine is 100% effective, the science says that if enough people become immune (and the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have efficacy rates over 90%), it ceases to be much of a problem. And people who make bullshit arguments against masks and vaccines are, ironically, the #1 reason that masks are still an issue. Better safe than sorry. Kindly read up on how exactly herd immunity and vaccines work before talking shit.

Also, I expected better from you, Germany:

Quote:A man has injured two members of a vaccination team in eastern Germany after he demanded a vaccination certificate without wanting to get vaccinated and was denied it.

https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-bus...2f5a8f7255
Also, I point out it's because of Aholes like this guy the vaccine has less effective because they refuse to follow the most basic precautions. This has allowed the virus to create variants the vaccine is less effective against (though still highly effective and will still save us if this trends to stop) They wanna whine about a problem they're causing.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
Israel... 
Most vaccinated country in the world. Was reporting over 90% vaxed
The claim was that it would stop covid... A testable claim...
Now lets examine the data...

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Now its peaking higher than ever before... People have the sniffles in mid-summer, unheard of...
Their talking about the 4th shot over there in Israel because the first 3 didn't work

United Kingdom and USA... How many are vaxed? 70%?
Well the claim was that 70% was all that was needed, without booster shots...
And they claimed if they vaxed the elderly and it would fix the problem... Testable claims
Now lets check the data...

Uk is worse with the mid summer sniffles, now taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
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USA is worse with the mid summer sniffles currently taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
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Not only has the vaccine been not effective... Its actually got worse...
And its like this in all the countries with high vaccination rates....

Follow the science they say... Well the science debunks any claim that the vaccines are effective

Is there any evidence to support the claim that they are? If not then that claim is refuted

As for unwarranted attacks on my character... Im not entering into a discussion with such immature people.
If you want to discuss it then at least act like a civilized human being cos i never attacked anyone.
Not my problem that the facts triggered you
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 6, 2021 at 5:09 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Israel... 
Most vaccinated country in the world. Was reporting over 90% vaxed
The claim was that it would stop covid... A testable claim...
Now lets examine the data...

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Now its peaking higher than ever before... People have the sniffles in mid-summer, unheard of...
Their talking about the 4th shot over there in Israel because the first 3 didn't work

United Kingdom and USA... How many are vaxed? 70%?
Well the claim was that 70% was all that was needed, without booster shots...
And they claimed if they vaxed the elderly and it would fix the problem... Testable claims
Now lets check the data...

Uk is worse with the mid summer sniffles, now taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
[Image: bandicam-2021-09-04-21-28-50-041.jpg]

USA is worse with the mid summer sniffles currently taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
[Image: bandicam-2021-09-04-21-28-36-414.jpg]

Not only has the vaccine been not effective... Its actually got worse...
And its like this in all the countries with high vaccination rates....

Follow the science they say... Well the science debunks any claim that the vaccines are effective

Is there any evidence to support the claim that they are? If not then that claim is refuted

As for unwarranted attacks on my character... Im not entering into a discussion with such immature people.
If you want to discuss it then at least act like a civilized human being cos i never attacked anyone.
Not my problem that the facts triggered you

You realized that the right-side spikes largely represent the unvaccinated and what happens when non-vaccine measure are lifted too soon, right?

Right?

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
(September 6, 2021 at 5:09 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Follow the science they say... Well the science debunks any claim that the vaccines are effective

Is there any evidence to support the claim that they are? If not then that claim is refuted

Vaccines are ineffective? But what about all the diseases that were eradicated by vaccines like Polio, Whooping Cough, Measles, etc.?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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