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A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 3:03 pm)unityconversation Wrote: You said: "No real human individual is quite so irredeemably nasty as to combine all of the attributes of God: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Although some do try."

Actually those are attributes of the animal.


The best way to "see" God, is to see the human being.
We are manifesting God all the time.

So you're not even trying to sound serious.
The only animal that is homophobic and racist is human and character of God from holy books.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
Circular argument is circular.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 3:57 pm)unityconversation Wrote: <snip for brevity>

No. My replies to each one of your points was clearly delinated and identified point by point. I borked no quote marks. My replies to each point were perfectly clear as to what was quotation and what was my response.

Your inability to read is not my problem, particularly when I have taken the effort to write my response in native HTML code to ensure that the response was perfectly clear.

If you are to stupid to read, then my response is simple. Your ideas are shite and go fuck yourself with a large stick.

Is that more at your level of discourse?
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 4:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(March 10, 2020 at 3:03 pm)unityconversation Wrote: You said: "No real human individual is quite so irredeemably nasty as to combine all of the attributes of God: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Although some do try."

Actually those are attributes of the animal.


The best way to "see" God, is to see the human being.
We are manifesting God all the time.

So you're not even trying to sound serious.
The only animal that is homophobic and racist is human and character of God from holy books.

Well I am being serious. You just don't believe that I am.

As far as you other sentence, all I have to say is: 'ok.'

(March 10, 2020 at 4:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Circular argument is circular.

Ok, that fine.

(March 10, 2020 at 4:51 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(March 10, 2020 at 3:57 pm)unityconversation Wrote: <snip for brevity>

No. My replies to each one of your points was clearly delinated and identified point by point. I borked no quote marks. My replies to each point were perfectly clear as to what was quotation and what was my response.

Your inability to read is not my problem, particularly when I have taken the effort to write my response in native HTML code to ensure that the response was perfectly clear.

If you are to stupid to read, then my response is simple. Your ideas are shite and go fuck yourself with a large stick.

Is that more at your level of discourse?

Damn??? And they say religious people are hostile.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 5:02 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Well I am being serious. You just don't believe that I am.

You keep making all of these fantasy assertions with nothing to back it up, except for more fantasy assertions.

Why should any of us take you serious. If this were anything but a god fantasy, people would seriously think about medicating you.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 5:09 pm)brewer Wrote:
(March 10, 2020 at 5:02 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Well I am being serious. You just don't believe that I am.

You keep making all of these fantasy assertions with nothing to back it up, except for more fantasy assertions.

Why should any of us take you serious. If this were anything but a god fantasy, people would seriously think about medicating you.

But they are reasonable assertions in the sense that we show them all the time [the divine names and attributes of God].

Only the human being can the invent things.

Only the human being can create develop highly advanced technology?

Only the human being can the build a city?

Only the human being can build an entire state?

Only the human being can build whole countries and entire civilizations?

Including this: Only the human being can go into orbit/space travel?

All of those things are manifestations of the divine names and attributes of God that only the human being can display to the physical world


Look, what has happened to us was indeed evolution, but here's the thing, this is more that just mere physical evolution. We have been singled out here. We are just "one" of many species on earth. Many species of animals do similar things, but it is only the human animal that does the unique things that's only to the human, such as reading, having a technical articulated language, and establishing science. And we have
been singled out to have dominion among all other species.

Think about it just for a second, if this was just mere physical evolution and nothing more, then why are we doing out of our caves, why aren't we still in them?

Why are we not doing just like all the other species on earth and still be strictly dwelling in the wild?

Who is us to try and come out of our caves and start inventing things?

Who is us to try to build a tribe or city and to establish the things of science?

Who is us to try an build civilizations
around the world and establish organized
governments in every country?

Who are we to not be mere animals, I
wonder?
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
There you go again, asserting that thing's completely human are the result of the actions of an undetectable god.

If you demanded that it came from an undetectable unicorn or dragon or alien race, they'd consider putting you away.

To bad I won't live long enough for that definition of sanity to be the societal norm. But all I can say for now is that you're fucking nuts. Now run off and mental masturbate some place else.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 5:02 pm)unityconversation Wrote:
(March 10, 2020 at 4:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So you're not even trying to sound serious.
The only animal that is homophobic and racist is human and character of God from holy books.

Well I am being serious. You just don't believe that I am.

As far as you other sentence, all I have to say is: 'ok.'

(March 10, 2020 at 4:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Circular argument is circular.

Ok, that fine.

(March 10, 2020 at 4:51 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: No. My replies to each one of your points was clearly delinated and identified point by point. I borked no quote marks. My replies to each point were perfectly clear as to what was quotation and what was my response.

Your inability to read is not my problem, particularly when I have taken the effort to write my response in native HTML code to ensure that the response was perfectly clear.

If you are to stupid to read, then my response is simple. Your ideas are shite and go fuck yourself with a large stick.

Is that more at your level of discourse?

Damn???  And they say religious people are hostile.

Oh I am hostile alright, Hostile to abject BS. Even my kids think your crap beliefs are nonsense. How does it feel for you to realise that fucking children think you are full of it?
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 5, 2020 at 3:49 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Even though the human being is an animal just like all other species, we are distinct because we have a divine reality.

Do you know what circular reasoning is? This is both your initial premise and your conclusion. That’s not how it works. Your argument is fallacious. You need to go back to the drawing board.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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RE: A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.
(March 10, 2020 at 5:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(March 5, 2020 at 3:49 pm)unityconversation Wrote: Even though the human being is an animal just like all other species, we are distinct because we have a divine reality.

Do you know what circular reasoning is? This is both your initial premise and your conclusion. That’s not how it works. Your argument is fallacious. You need to go back to the drawing board.

It only gets repetitive and fallacious because you deny the concepts and evidence that I've been saying.

Like I said, that's fine. You have to understand I'm not here to try and change someone's mind. This is just something that I'm sharing.
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