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War According To The Qur'an
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RE: War According To The Qur'an
(April 20, 2020 at 4:20 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: These are all out of context quotes, it's like zooming on the picture of one dead soldier in a battle then claim all earth is filled with blood and corpses. The Qur'an only authorizes attacking first in the case of preemptive war, that is, if there is incontrovertible evidence an enemy attack is imminent. Also, the equivalent in Arabic of "fight" in the Qur'an is qatala', which literally means offensive action from both sides. Murdering innocents just doesn't exist anywhere in reliable literature.

Other fact: any individual is explicitly forbidden to go to jihad if his parents don't allow him to. Now think about how many cases you heard of, about people fleeing their families to some ME country, thinking they are the most fervent Muslims.....

Liar. Qatala -قتل- literally translates to "killed".
It doesn't mean offense from both sides; it's not even related to offense from both sides.

Qatala means "killed". It's written like this "قتل".

Offensive action from both sides is a complex sentence that obeys the language rules just like in this verse:


Quote:Quran, Sura 2
https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#...rans=en_sh

(190 )   Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

Writing it in Arabic, from my Arabic keyboard:
و قاتلوا في سبيل الله الذين يقاتلونكم ولا تعتدوا انه لا يحب المعتدين
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RE: War According To The Qur'an
(April 9, 2020 at 3:08 pm)Editz Wrote: There's a brain involved?   Read



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#23
RE: War According To The Qur'an
The great satan fights in the way of allah those who fight us, but we do not transgress. You sure that this part of magic book means what you think it does?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#24
RE: War According To The Qur'an
(April 9, 2020 at 8:06 am)KuranMumini19 Wrote: many in the Quran there are verses about war. atheists, contacts etc Islam by showing the Koran the verses related to war they're trying to make a religion of war. by breaking off from the context of the verses the Prophet Mohammed Islam spread by the sword is said to be.


most atheists much use at the beginning of the turn time.


time to repent 29.verse: to whom among those who were given the book, God and the last day disapproving Allah and his messenger prohibited do not prohibit, and True Religion his hands do not meet with those that bow their necks and corresponds with fight until.


time to repent 123.verse: O approvers the truth, you siege attacking the infidels fight. in you hardness let's find out. verily Allah is with the righteous.


time to repent 111.verse: the lives of confirming the truth of Allah in exchange for their goods and garden has bought. they will fight in the way of Allah so they kill and are killed. this his Torah, the Bible and in the Qur'an that has given is a promise. his word, instead of who is better than Allah can you bring? then this for your purchase rejoice. the biggest success.


time to repent 41.verse: light and heavy war last exit to and in Allah's way with your wealth and your lives strive. if you know more on this for you is the best.


and many more Surat al-Tawba is talking about war. Surat al-Tawba last all of the verses about the war is a war of Defense.


time to repent 1.verse: this is what Allah and his messenger, with whom deal done Current is a declaration to the pagans.


time to repent 12.verse: after making the deal, impairs their ant and if they attack your religion, that's denial with their leaders because of the war Andi are now invalid. maybe they'll give up.


time to repent 13.verse: the messenger out of his dorm and broke their oaths he won't fight against a people who strive could you? nevertheless, you attack at first they launched. do you fear them? if if you are a believer in him, fear him most worthy that is, it is God.


above as seen in the verses pagans they had broken Covenant and the Muslims self a war fought to defend.


Surat al-Anfal 60.verse: you can do for them and mounted the force troops (tools of war) prepare mobilize. thus, the enemies of Allah with them, your enemies and other from them you don't know, but God knows that anyone caydirirs you. whatever you spend in the way of Allah are fully paid and you no injustice you shall not be.


Surat al-Anfal 12.verse: your Lord to the Angels "I am with you, the truth approvers support. into the hearts of the unbelievers I will cast terror. their necks and smite of them every single shoot with her finger," he offers.


Surat al-Anfal 56.verse: those whom you make an agreement with people are. but every time their treaty they break. they're never shy.


Surat al-Anfal 61.verse: if you show a tendency to peace, if you also incline to it and trust in Allah. because he is the best listener, the best all-knowing.


According to the above verse, pagans deal they've scrambled. trend pagans in peace if the Muslims show a tendency to the peace in and they show it.


pilgrimage 39.verse: fight them in the open war with them permission was granted. persecution because they are they were defeated. of course Allah help them has the power.


pilgrimage 60.verse: this is the case. who applied to injustice responds in the same way against God, if it were also attacked will help him. of course, Affe is God, he is forgiving.


the duration of ahzab 25.verse: with the fury of the unbelievers Allah empty-handed as turned down. so allah the truth is that the approvers in the Winter War. allah strong, is superior.


the duration of ahzab 26.verse:the people of the book and the ones that support them from the castle was brought down and cast terror into their hearts. kills a portion, a portion of prisoners also were taking.


the duration of ahzab 27.verse: their land, their homes, their money and yet even with your foot pressed you are the heir to the lands that made. allah has power over all things.


ahzab in Surat al-verses war is a war of Defence.


9 ahzab.verse: O all in favor of the truth, your armies attacked time, the wind, and you did see God made you who sent armies to remember the good. God you do seeing everything he is.


Qur'an 191.verse: where you have captured them kill them; they drove them out remove them from the ground. corruption / print corruption, murder is worse. Al-Masjid Al-Haram, they impact you do not engage with you until you have entered them. if you go to engage with you if , kill them. it is provided that the punishment of unbelievers!


above verse is a war of Defence.


Qur'an 190.verse: Allah is with those who engage with you the way you engage in. but unjustly attack / not to combat oppression. God knows no boundaries Cougars he doesn't like.


the Koran War all related verses is a war of Defense. the Qur'an, friendship with people who fight for religion is done.


to mumteh 60.verse: God, you who fight in the cause of religion and people who do a favor to your land off you to be fair to them does not prohibit you. God is fair loves the doers.


other in the Quran even if you held a grudge community, you should be fair.


Quran 8.verse: the truth approvers! justice for God witness into consideration. having a community don't let your anger drive you from acting with Justice. just treat; that is closer to righteousness. Allah listen. and Allah of what you do take notice.


agreement do not fight with people.


Nisa 90.verse: but among you there is a treaty, and a society which with its sheltered, with you or with their community their hearts fail, and about fighting you do not touch arrivals. if Allah had willed them, of course you he would have on your face, they also necessarily you he would fight it. in that case, away from you, with you he will not fight, and offer you peace, no longer God has a way to go on not.


the Koran War is a war of Defense. deal-breaker with the contacts the war is done. the persecuted the time war is done. attack the Quran there is no war.


the time of Muhammad 4.verse: those who disbelieve in battle when you are faced with hit the control centers. when you get superior at the end take them captive, them or unrequited in exchange for the release or ransom. war follow it up until the situation. had Allah willed it would have saved you the trouble of war; but that is so you each other to test. in the path of Allah and slay when it comes to their actions vain he won't be.

If you truly hate war, good for you. Lots of humans in the west also hate war. But just like Christianity and Jews, others in those camps read their respective holy books and point to verses that make it a duty to "defend God". Islam doesn't escape humans with different interpretations either.

And the idea of blind loyalty, and submission as a cure to bring peace, isn't peace, it is simply an authoritarian demand.
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#25
RE: War According To The Qur'an
Or to excuse what they do as allahs way. Militants don't consider themselves to be harming innocents any more than your average drone pilot would.

Magic book is the foundational legend of an expanding empire, and it shows.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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