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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 18, 2011 at 8:58 am
(February 18, 2011 at 8:27 am)Tiberius Wrote: Too many welfare programs waste money and don't close loopholes because they think they have a neverending supply of cash from the government; this attitude isn't prevalent in the private sector.
I've worked many, many government contracts in the private sector & I've also contracted for basically all of the, big communications companies also while in the private sector & your statement isn't true as often as you think it may be. 
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 18, 2011 at 9:07 am
You've contracted for welfare programs? What do you mean?
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 18, 2011 at 9:38 am
My bad, my brain skipped over the word "welfare" at the start of that sentence. On a similar note however, all of your large communications companies took in quite a bit of corporate welfare to get started & put plant (equipment) in the ground. They were too risk adverse to network our country without the government providing incentives.
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 18, 2011 at 3:00 pm
(February 18, 2011 at 5:58 am)Ubermensch Wrote: Those who really truly need it, ought to get it. Those who just want it because they are very lazy, ought not to.
You would vote "I support it" in this poll then..and your argument exactly reflects mine. A social safety net shows that our nation has civilised compasion and is a good thing. People who abuse the system should be punished harshly, but not their children. The children are innocent victims in this situation.
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 18, 2011 at 4:51 pm
I support in almost all situations, except cases where people are willing "Gaming the system" these people should be tried
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 21, 2011 at 6:54 am
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2011 at 6:54 am by The Omnissiunt One.)
People who are unemployed for a certain period of time should be offered a public sector job, even if it's something like a binman. If the person then turns it down, his or her unemployment benefits should be removed, or at least substantially reduced. There needs to be a balance between compassion for those who can't work, and encouraging those who don't want to.
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 21, 2011 at 9:39 am
(February 21, 2011 at 6:54 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: People who are unemployed for a certain period of time should be offered a public sector job, even if it's something like a binman. If the person then turns it down, his or her unemployment benefits should be removed, or at least substantially reduced. There needs to be a balance between compassion for those who can't work, and encouraging those who don't want to.
I'd KILL for a "Public Sector Job" even cleaning bloody street dustbins!!!
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
(February 18, 2011 at 3:20 am)theVOID Wrote: I oppose welfare for all but the destitute poor and disabled, people who could work but don't shouldn't be allowed welfare, if it was a small tribe they'd be sent packing off into the wild.
I agree 100%. Although, according to the "VOTING INSTRUCTIONS" in the OP, this should mean that you vote "I support it" simply because there are exceptions when you support it.
I know, these instructions in these recent polls are rather odd since surely the exceptions shouldn't be voted for but rather what you lean towards the most!
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 21, 2011 at 3:34 pm
(February 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm)DoubtVsFaith Wrote: (February 18, 2011 at 3:20 am)theVOID Wrote: I oppose welfare for all but the destitute poor and disabled, people who could work but don't shouldn't be allowed welfare, if it was a small tribe they'd be sent packing off into the wild.
I agree 100%. Although, according to the "VOTING INSTRUCTIONS" in the OP, this should mean that you vote "I support it" simply because there are exceptions when you support it.
I know, these instructions in these recent polls are rather odd since surely the exceptions shouldn't be voted for but rather what you lean towards the most!
because the true is that most pople support it doesn't mean they support it to a extremist levels nd there needs to be some distinction between supporting it and fully supporting it
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RE: Welfare - are you for or against it and why?
February 21, 2011 at 4:05 pm
But the same goes for opposing it.
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