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Islam
RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 12:24 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: MK was member for quite a few years and WH was always intolerant towards him.

MK was the wrong sort of muslim and deserved death because of it in AtlasS little world.

(July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 1.Invention of the atomic bomb and detonating it and then not being used again
Sort of not true. Since atomic bombs turned up, there have been
(July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 2-The whole world owns a copy of the doom weapon. Yup and it's not used again and an Era of unprecedented prosperity begins and no world wars 
Also a bit iffy. The physics is the same no matter what one does.
(July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 3-The start of the "age of deterrence "Yup and it's not used again and an Era of unprecedented prosperity begins and no world wars 
Yet. There are plenty of Hitler wannabe's knocking about these days.
(July 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 4-Hitler is dead but no other Hitler's come about because no others can 
You sure about that? Given the current state of the world?

There is an animation I rather like. About 15 minutes long it shows every nuclear detonation from 1945 to 1998. An astonishing 2053 happened. Slow at the start, it is worth taking a mere 15 minutes to see how mad MAD was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
1. I meant used in war 

2.Not sure what you mean 

3. Again i meant used in war
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 3:36 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: MK was the wrong sort of muslim and deserved death because of it in AtlasS little world.

Sort of not true. Since atomic bombs turned up, there have been
Also a bit iffy. The physics is the same no matter what one does.
Yet. There are plenty of Hitler wannabe's knocking about these days.
You sure about that? Given the current state of the world?

There is an animation I rather like. About 15 minutes long it shows every nuclear detonation from 1945 to 1998. An astonishing 2053 happened. Slow at the start, it is worth taking a mere 15 minutes to see how mad MAD was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY
1. I meant used in war 

2.Not sure what you mean 

3. Again i meant used in war

So the Cold War does not count as a war?
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 3:42 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 3:36 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 1. I meant used in war 

2.Not sure what you mean 

3. Again i meant used in war

So the Cold War does not count as a war?
Active war no
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 4:09 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 3:42 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: So the Cold War does not count as a war?
Active war no

The Cold War was not an active war?

Did you perhaps mean open hostilities?
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 4:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 4:09 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: Active war no

The Cold War was not an active war?

Did you perhaps mean open hostilities?
I mean unlike WW2 the two main antagonists were not engaged in direct conflict or total war  . But instead proxy wars , And they certainly were not using atomic weapons on each other .
“The sun from far gives life. But get close to it and it burns anything down to ashes”
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 4:56 pm)SUNGULA Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 4:32 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: The Cold War was not an active war?

Did you perhaps mean open hostilities?
I mean unlike WW2 the two main antagonists were not engaged in direct conflict or total war  . But instead proxy wars , And they certainly were not using atomic weapons on each other .

Well, we could quibble all day long about that. Given we are more or less aligned, that would appear to be...not a great use of our time.
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RE: Islam
(July 15, 2020 at 6:08 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(July 15, 2020 at 4:56 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: I mean unlike WW2 the two main antagonists were not engaged in direct conflict or total war  . But instead proxy wars , And they certainly were not using atomic weapons on each other .

Well, we could quibble all day long about that. Given we are more or less aligned, that would appear to be...not a great use of our time.
True
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RE: Islam
Ironically; trolls have turned a topic about "Islam" into a topic about old members who got banned, then to the "cold war", diverting the op in a direct break to the rules. Probably a mod is allowing this ironic play to happen.
Very funny .

(July 15, 2020 at 12:24 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: MK was member for quite a few years and WH was always intolerant towards him.

But the topic is not about old cases of people who broke the rules and took trolling too far.
This topic is about Islam, and @Belaqua and others have said quite some good argument. So please focus on that, not on cases  of banned members.
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RE: Islam
I'll play,let's look that the reverse.

Premise: what is the world were ruled be the exact opposite of Islamic rules/laws.

::God:
Allah is the creator of this universe. Gender is not applied to him; but we use "he" to refer to him for linguistic reasons alone. He is a "creator"; so that's what he does: create. 
Heaven, Hell and God are not an accepted fact.

::Mankind:
Mankind was created by God. God allows Mankind to have a mind of their own. Mankind should use it.

::What if Anti-Islam ruled the globe?

1-The poor:
The needy orphans and prisoners must not be fed communally, they must fend for their own

2-The criminals:
Crime is tolerated and not punished equally, including:
-Having sex without an official contract is fine. It shouldn't be a crime because sex is under that free mind of mankind above. It can produce children and inspires obligations, go figure. 
-Murder is not punished by killing the killer, such dangerous activity has a place in the world of Anti-Islam. We kill people for food (see poor above), for safety, for God's sake. You can't make martyrs pay reparations for unjust crimes. If we're all creations of Allah, why do we have the right to do the same things the murders are doing. We'll save the righteous killings and justice vs revenge discussion for later in the thread I'm certain.
-Robbery is not punished by cutting the hand of the thieve because that wouldn't even be close to fair and would make the person then disabled and classified as needy and since we're not feeding those would ultimately result in their early deaths as we are crippling their ability to survive because they're trying to survive.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

always working on cleaning my windows- me regarding Johari
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RE: Islam
This whole comment is a mistake, sorry tackattack , I truly apologize. I will read it and comment back.
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