Islam

[Foxaèr]

Irrelevant to Islam. I’m anti-theism, after all, not anti-humanity.

[Belacqua]

Irrelevant to Islam. I’m anti-theism, after all, not anti-humanity.

It's relevant if you rule out voting for a Muslim even when her policies are good. Or do you somehow insist, despite the evidence, that a Muslim can't have good policies?

How strong is your anti-theist prejudice? Would you vote for a Catholic priest who supported good political policies?

[Foxaèr]

Still irrelevant.

[Belacqua]

Still irrelevant.

It's relevant because it appears that a Muslim can in fact be progressive and have good political policies, yet you still oppose her views. 

Can a Muslim be a good person while holding Muslim views, or not? Is Ilhan Omar a bad person because she holds views that are, according to you, childish? Or is she a good person despite holding those views? Do you respect the work that Shahid Buttar has done, although he has never renounced Islam? Or do you think all his progressive work is insufficient to make him a good person, because he's a Muslim?

This is relevant because you seem to be opposing something big called Islam, but are unwilling to say anything specific or discuss any individual Muslim. 

I hope you're not avoiding these serious questions.

[Foxaèr]

What I’m avoiding is your skewering of the debate in order to bait me into stating what you want me state.

Not going to happen, because I’m more reasonable than that.

[Belacqua]

What I’m avoiding is your skewering of the debate in order to bait me into stating what you want me state.

Not going to happen, because I’m more reasonable than that.

What do you think I want you to state? I only want you to say what you really think.

But I see that you're unwilling to specify anything which is intrinsic to Islam which you disapprove of. You're unwilling to specify why you think people who are Muslim must be childish or anti-progressive. You only want to make blanket general statements expressing your feelings. OK.

[Foxaèr]

Your issue is in being incapable of separating the person and the belief. You erroneously believe both are mutually inclusive.

[Belacqua]

Your issue is in being incapable of separating the person and the belief. You erroneously believe both are mutually inclusive.

So you agree that a person can hold Muslim beliefs and be a good person? That holding those beliefs doesn't make a person childish or anti-progressive?

[GrandizerII]

The terror war with savage islam is and has been going on.  The trouble, the only ones fighting are the barbarian savages of jihad.  When will civilized people wake up and understand that there can never, ever be peace with a savage intent on killing you?  They are trained from birth to hate, murder, rape and pillage and have been doing it for 1000 years. There can NEVER be peace with savage islam.

Muslims all around the planet are not only lopping off peoples heads when they don't agree with their savage belief system; now they are making demands on civilized countries to comply with their ridiculous beliefs. They are breeding like rabbits as part of their plan for Planetary domination and will continue to do so.

What I'd like to know is what kind of sources you and masoni follow. This sounds like Islamophobic propaganda talk meant to reinforce this bigotry against Muslims. Muslims are savage because a subgroup of them are savage, therefore fuck them all, and bring back the Christian crusades. Right masoni? This talk is almost just as creepy as the shit Isis come up with.

[Foxaèr]

I’m more prone to supporting individuals who do good despite affiliation to religious belief than those who rely on it like a ball and chain.