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how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
(June 23, 2020 at 1:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 23, 2020 at 1:33 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Or he doesn't quite get that authoritarians can hold elections, but rig them so that the voters' actual decisions mean nothing.

Beside the point. His claim wasn’t that elections staged by authoritarians aren’t free and fair, but that they don’t happen, full stop.

Which is why I expressed it they way I did.
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
(June 23, 2020 at 10:15 am)Eleven Wrote: So long as there are ignorant white people not understanding, the more civil unrest there will be from those who are not being treated fairly by the corrupt system of this world.

which is what? racism? systematic racism? misogyny? various phobia/intolerance to the various sexual perversion groups? what other trigger words would you like to add? what other words can you think of that allows to you hate and be the people you pretend to stand against, without forethought logic or reason, but rather for the sake of a lable the news media puts on people?
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
The trigger baby wants to have a discussion about trigger words.

Do you agree with the fascists, or do you believe that The Donald is not a fascist?
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
(June 23, 2020 at 11:09 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If the aggrieved peoples of a fictional white race believe that they are being systemically oppressed...and they do, a majority of them believe as much - and they think that this is bad...and...they...do...then it's not an issue of ignorance.  
define ignorance. as i/merrium webster define the word ignorance it is a lack of understanding or knowledge. knowledge is something obtainable to anyone. however the ignorant lack it. therefore the redeem here is education that these men are not systematically oppressed. but held back by social ideologies that are in conflict with how the rest of the world works.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorant

Quote:It's an issue of framing and propagandizing.  Of believing in a zero sum game where the only way that you can have more is for someone else to have less.  This belief, itself, isn't ignorance, but a true assessment of the wedge politics that those who benefit from dysfunction have put in place to effortlessly divide us so that they might conquer us for profit and better merchandising opportunities.
this is not even a matter of having more. this is a matter of not having anything because i do not know how to manage what i do have. having more in this case means spending more. look at the fighters and sports superheros. who play this idea of having more is the answer to all your problems. the issue here is finical wisdom and discipline. their nor any other economy will suffer fools very long/till their money runs out.
Quote:We've been taught to expect so little from our government that we no longer believe that we can demand an american baseline -before- we engage in negotiations with establishment incrementalists of any political persuasion.

so it should be. the government does not own you money. it owes us what is in the constitution and bill of rights only. any thing else is above and beyond. IE don't plan your life on it.

(June 23, 2020 at 12:20 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(June 22, 2020 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: biden is not right.. neither is sanders. biden is a sad old globalist who will be replaced by his vice pres inside  month of him taking office. so essentially
 because he has not even picked a running mate you have no idea who the other guy is and you are so slanted it doesn't matter.

Globalism is a good thing and something we should al be working towards.

why?

The only people i see who want globalism are the supremely rich and the poorest of poor. because they both bleed out the people in the middle.
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
You just quoted me explaining that you're not ignorant, simply propagandized. Thank you for demonstrating my point while believing that you were arguing against it. I'm not actually convinced of your business acumen, and I know that you don't give a shit about fiscal wisdom or discipline. You voted for a man who ran casinos into the ground while stiffing his contractors and declaring bankruptcy....multiple times. The same man who is currently raiding our government coffers for everything that isn;t nailed down (and some of the shit that is) to give his buddies and himself handouts. I know that you don't care about constitutional guarantees for precisely the same reason.

Do you agree with the fascists, or do you believe that The Donald is not a fascist?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
(June 23, 2020 at 1:10 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(June 23, 2020 at 12:36 pm)Agnostico Wrote: A fascist leader is authoritarian. He doesn't hold elections every four years

And you're assuming that it's impossible for an authoritarian to come to power in a democratic society how, exactly? By your logic, Hitler's rise to power in the Weimar Republic could never have happened. In reality, This has happened multiple times throughout history.

Read what I said dumbass and take your strawman home with u.
I said a fascist leader does not hold elections. A dictator doesn't give up power

(June 23, 2020 at 1:22 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 23, 2020 at 12:36 pm)Agnostico Wrote: A fascist leader is authoritarian. He doesn't hold elections every four years

Mussolini, a Fascist authoritarian, was elected Prime Minister in 1924. Five years later, he held another election. Five years after that, he held another election. 

Putin, an authoritarian by anyone’s standards, holds elections like clockwork.

Where on earth did you get the idea that authoritarians leaders don’t hold elections?

Boru

Ur just trying to avoid the obvious fact.
Fascists are dictators.
The west has no dictators
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
Fascist leaders do hold elections. You were wrong. Oh well, learn something every day, right?

Do you agree with fascists and believe the The Donald isn't fascist enough?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
(June 23, 2020 at 1:50 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(June 23, 2020 at 1:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Beside the point. His claim wasn’t that elections staged by authoritarians aren’t free and fair, but that they don’t happen, full stop.

Which is why I expressed it they way I did.

Exactly. Intentionally dodging the point...
No dictator. No fascist
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
Cute rule. One that you've just made up. Still unclear on what the issue with your made up rule is.

Do you agree with fascists and believe that The Donald isn't fascist enough because you expect him to hold an election?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: how many of you think this is still about Mr Floyd?
The mental gymnastics required to make things adhere to an ideology is just mind boggling...

Fact - A fascist leader is a dictator. No western country has a dictator

The op asks if this is still about BLM. I've proven that it's about more than that.
I've proven that it's driven by a neo marxist ideology as told by a BLM co-founder...

Nuff said. Peace out communists
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