Split decision by SCOTUS on Bunkerboy's taxes.

[Brian37]

Hold your horses because in 2010, Ivanka and Don Jr were nearly indicted for felony fraud. The district attorney who dropped the case -- after a hefty donation from Trump's lawyer -- was Cy Vance.

SCOTUS ruled that Vance, not Congress, can access Trump's tax returns.

"Nearly" only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

My point is everyone sane reading this knows and accepts that Trump and his family are a mob family. And while I will always lean to the attitude "It is better to let 10 guilty go free, than to convict one innocent person" we are talking about power at this point, not laypeople or no names.

[Fake Messiah]

Well Brian, it's no secret that Trump is a criminal and an abhorrent human being along with his close family, but as he said that he can shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and still get away with it and have people who will vote for him.

And he is doing despicable things to people and they love him because he knows who to bribe, like religious Christian figures who glorify him and their sheep follow.



But maybe the whole incident gets a skit on SNL

[arewethereyet]

Laws cannot be put in place that go against the constitution. That does not mean that all laws come from the constitution.

Running a red light is illegal and you can be ticketed, fined, have points placed against your license for doing so.

The constitution does not have a line item for running red lights.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Do you understand the difference between a regular law and a constitutional amendment?

Boru

Prohibition was constitutionally upheld then constitutionally struck down. 

Slavery was legal unfortunately and it took a war to end it.


If the founders intent was to limit power to the office of the President, and they put forth the concept of checks and balances, then the ability to add or remove an amendment, remains. And if you look at the Constitution there are previsons to add or remove an amendment.

And American history has shown that both have happened.

I am merely trying to suggest that the Emoluments Clause was brilliant in the idea of preventing corruption. I think having a Constitutional Amendment requiring anyone applying to run for President could go a long way in preventing an asshole like Trump.

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And I don't know what you mean by trying to separate regular law from Constitutional law when all laws stem from the Constitution.

Because you’ll never, EVER get such an amendment.

In order for an amendment to be added to the Constitution, 2/3 of both houses of Congress (which is absolutely teeming with people who want to be president) have to agree on the wording of the amendment.

Then - in the unlikely event that the above actually happens - you have get the legislatures of three-fourths of the states (and a whole lot of state legislators also have presidential ambitions) to approve it. This can, and generally does take years and years to accomplish. THAT’S why it’s a stupid idea, and why it differs from a state or federal law.

Boru

[Fireball]

Prohibition was constitutionally upheld then constitutionally struck down. 

Slavery was legal unfortunately and it took a war to end it.


If the founders intent was to limit power to the office of the President, and they put forth the concept of checks and balances, then the ability to add or remove an amendment, remains. And if you look at the Constitution there are previsons to add or remove an amendment.

And American history has shown that both have happened.

I am merely trying to suggest that the Emoluments Clause was brilliant in the idea of preventing corruption. I think having a Constitutional Amendment requiring anyone applying to run for President could go a long way in preventing an asshole like Trump.

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And I don't know what you mean by trying to separate regular law from Constitutional law when all laws stem from the Constitution.

Because you’ll never, EVER get such an amendment.

In order for an amendment to be added to the Constitution, 2/3 of both houses of Congress (which is absolutely teeming with people who want to be president) have to agree on the wording of the amendment.

Then - in the unlikely event that the above actually happens - you have get the legislatures of three-fourths of the states (and a whole lot of state legislators also have presidential ambitions) to approve it. This can, and generally does take years and years to accomplish. THAT’S why it’s a stupid idea, and why it differs from a state or federal law.

Boru

If I thought that it would do any good, and if I could pay you enough money, you could come to the US and teach some of these dumbass chump supporters about the law and the Constitution. But, given that I've seen those dorks wearing shirts stenciled with "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat", I think that there would be a waste all around.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Because you’ll never, EVER get such an amendment.

In order for an amendment to be added to the Constitution, 2/3 of both houses of Congress (which is absolutely teeming with people who want to be president) have to agree on the wording of the amendment.

Then - in the unlikely event that the above actually happens - you have get the legislatures of three-fourths of the states (and a whole lot of state legislators also have presidential ambitions) to approve it. This can, and generally does take years and years to accomplish. THAT’S why it’s a stupid idea, and why it differs from a state or federal law.

Boru

If I thought that it would do any good, and if I could pay you enough money, you could come to the US and teach some of these dumbass chump supporters about the law and the Constitution. But, given that I've seen those dorks wearing shirts stenciled with "I'd rather be a Russian than a Democrat", I think that there would be a waste all around.

Very kind of you to say, but I think I'll pass. 'You can lead a boor to knowledge, but you can't make him think', as the saying goes.

Brian probably doesn't realize it, but he's doing me a great service.  Whenever he says something suspect, it makes me trot on over to Wikipedia to look things up. I learn stuff I probably wouldn't have done otherwise.

Boru