Blue Lives Don't Exist

[The Architect Of Fate]

I trusted the data presented from the source and didn't look into it enough to see if it could be flawed.

I brought up black on white crime to show that all races go through bad stuff and that whites aren't sitting in the kiddie pool with no worries, which was the claim made. I dispute the narrative by MSM that white racism is a huge deal bigger than anything else. A black man is shot and the narrative becomes "now blacks have to worry about getting lynched when they go for a jog. Be afraid of the white boogeyman who's coming to get you." How often does that really happen though? A white woman calls the police on a black man without good reason, and that's headline news, and gets more airtime than a kid shot in the head on his lawn. White racism is a problem for sure, but it's overhyped to the max, and this is done by the establishment to make us hate each other, so we bicker against each other rather than uniting against the powers that be. White people are shot and killed by police plenty too. Black lives matter, as do other lives. I want us to unite, but how can I be an ally when whiteness is what they say they're fighting? Whiteness is not the problem. Those in power being greedy, corrupt, and not caring about the poor is not a white thing. It's a human nature thing.

And more crazed white victimhood blather mixed with conspiracy think

[The Grand Nudger]

I trusted the data presented from the source and didn't look into it enough to see if it could be flawed.

That much is apparent, but I was wondering if you could remember the source?  

I brought up black on white crime to show that all races go through bad stuff and that whites aren't sitting in the kiddie pool with no worries, which was the claim made. I dispute the narrative by MSM that white racism is a huge deal bigger than anything else. A black man is shot and the narrative becomes "now blacks have to worry about getting lynched when they go for a jog.

-and all because a black man was lynched when he went for jog.  How very unfair. To whites.

Be afraid of the white boogeyman who's coming to get you.

Or the raping hordes of black men preying on white women, right?

" How often does that really happen though? A white woman calls the police on a black man without good reason, and that's headline news, and gets more airtime than a kid shot in the head on his lawn. White racism is a problem for sure, but it's overhyped to the max, and this is done by the establishment to make us hate each other, so we bicker against each other rather than uniting against the powers that be. White people are shot and killed by police plenty too. Black lives matter, as do other lives. I want us to unite, but how can I be an ally when whiteness is what they say they're fighting? Whiteness is not the problem. Those in power being greedy, corrupt, and not caring about the poor is not a white thing. It's a human nature thing.

The white victimization complex is sold by white supremacists.  You've been listening to white supremacist propaganda, not establishment hype. The only sense in which white supremacist propaganda could be establishment hype, is if we had a white supremacist establishment. I want you to think about this critically. Do you believe that BLM... a marxist anti family anti apple pie and america black supremacist group, is going to be the one spreading white supremacist propaganda... about BLM? Do you think that you're getting white supremacist ideas...by listening to BLM? Was BLM the source of your ideas about interracial rape? Why do you feel that we're fighting whiteness or being told to fight whiteness? Could it be something like your ideas about white people kneeling and apologizing for their whiteness and priveledge? You might want to look that one up next.

I feel like you're in for a string of humiliating mea culpas.

[Anomalocaris]

I’m always puzzled as to why people are afraid of Marxism. It’s exactly as much of a threat as an nuclear powered wombat.

Boru

Apparently, people seem to favor the reality of the one percent hoarding the world's wealth.

No, The appeal of Marxism to most like you is it seem to promise social justice of the type you like to see. 

But over the last century marxists who promise to Only take away from the 1% what you in your heart feel they don’t deserve have without exception established a long and consistent track record of also taking away from Most of those like you what You in your head think you do deserve, until in the end, enough of you feel you, in this respect, have more in common with the 1% then with the marxists. 

But keep in mind Marx himself wasn’t stupid enough to think that by providing some people’s idea of social justice, all will smell like roses.   The analytical justification he, and his most influential follower Engels provided for his ideal ultimate society is In a highly developed industrialized society, communism will utilize available manpower and productive resources far more efficiently than capitalism and will thus vastly outperform capitalism in economic development.   This is the basis of Nikita Krushchev’s famous boast to Richard Nixon that”we will bury you”.    But a century’s experimentation seem to show no implementation of Marxism has proven able to match the performance Of established Capitalism in head to head contests in precisely the the area In which Marx had promised that his ideal Society will prove its long term viability by exhibiting unchallengeable superiority.

What is worse for Marxism, Marx and Engels postulated As industrial societies become more developed, and All manpower and resources are plugged in and utilized, the Productive superiority of a communist society will increase.   Hence communism is a natural end stage of virtuous evolution of productive society.    In actual experience, societies which have adopted Marxist communism seem to have exhibited the greatest competitiveness when it is Underdeveloped, still agrarian and only beginning to industrialize.    The more Developed and industrialized the societies become, the more the ones run by communists fall behind developed Capitalist society in economic performance.    So rather than appearing to be a natural end point of a virtuous evolution, analytically speaking, Marxism appears to be a dead end whose intrinsic inefficiency makes it increasingly untenable in open competition with capitalism as the society develops.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I trusted the data presented from the source and didn't look into it enough to see if it could be flawed.

That much is apparent, but I was wondering if you could remember the source?  

I brought up black on white crime to show that all races go through bad stuff and that whites aren't sitting in the kiddie pool with no worries, which was the claim made. I dispute the narrative by MSM that white racism is a huge deal bigger than anything else. A black man is shot and the narrative becomes "now blacks have to worry about getting lynched when they go for a jog.

-and all because a black man was lynched when he went for jog.  How very unfair.   To whites.

Be afraid of the white boogeyman who's coming to get you.

Or the raping hordes of black men preying on white women, right?

" How often does that really happen though? A white woman calls the police on a black man without good reason, and that's headline news, and gets more airtime than a kid shot in the head on his lawn. White racism is a problem for sure, but it's overhyped to the max, and this is done by the establishment to make us hate each other, so we bicker against each other rather than uniting against the powers that be. White people are shot and killed by police plenty too. Black lives matter, as do other lives. I want us to unite, but how can I be an ally when whiteness is what they say they're fighting? Whiteness is not the problem. Those in power being greedy, corrupt, and not caring about the poor is not a white thing. It's a human nature thing.

The white victimization complex is sold by white supremacists.  You've been listening to white supremacist propaganda, not establishment hype.  The only sense in which white supremacist propaganda could be establishment hype, is if we had a white supremacist establishment.  I want you to think about this critically.  Do you believe that BLM... a marxist anti family anti apple pie and america black supremacist group, is going to be the one spreading white supremacist propaganda... about BLM?  Do you think that you're getting white supremacist ideas...by listening to BLM?  Was BLM the source of your ideas about interracial rape?  Why do you feel that we're fighting whiteness or being told to fight whiteness?  Could it be something like your ideas about white people kneeling and apologizing for their whiteness and priveledge?  You might want to look that one up next.

I feel like you're in for a string of humiliating mea culpas.

The BJS.

Why do you consider it white supremacy to stand up for all victims? Do you call Jews racist when they have an issue with anti-Semitism and hate crimes/ violence against Jews? Do you call Asians racist when they have an issue with hate crimes/ violence against Asians? Why are hate crimes/ violence against whites the only ones that can not be mentioned? Who are the ones who are really being racist here? The ones who care about all victims, or the ones who only care about a certain subset of victims?

Fighting whiteness is brought up non-stop by BLM activists when they do interviews.

[The Grand Nudger]

The BJS.

Unfamiliar, got a link?

Why do you consider it white supremacy to stand up for all victims?

I don't.  I consider the dissemination of white supremacist propaganda to be white supremacy.  

Why are hate crimes/ violence against whites the only ones that can not be mentioned? Who are the ones who are really being racist here?

If you ask questions to get answers, that would be you. This is the rhetoric of the white victimization complex, contemporary white supremacy's primary recruiting tool.

Discrimination, rights abrogation, stigmatization and the denial of pride, loss of self-esteem, and racial elimination.

Fighting whiteness is brought up non-stop by BLM activists when they do interviews.

Excellent, lets see one.  And the thing about kneeling and apologizing?  Find the time to source that yet? I can spoil the surprise if you like.

[Irreligious Atheist]

The BJS.

Unfamiliar, got a link?

Why do you consider it white supremacy to stand up for all victims?

I don't.  I consider the dissemination of white supremacist propaganda to be white supremacy.  

Why are hate crimes/ violence against whites the only ones that can not be mentioned? Who are the ones who are really being racist here?

If you ask questions to get answers, that would be you.  This is the rhetoric of the white victimization complex, contemporary white supremacy's primary recruiting tool.

Discrimination, rights abrogation,  stigmatization and the denial of pride,  loss of self-esteem, and racial elimination.

Fighting whiteness is brought up non-stop by BLM activists when they do interviews.

Excellent, lets see one.  And the thing about kneeling and apologizing?  Find the time to source that yet?  I can spoil the surprise if you like.

Bureau of Justice Statistics. It was in the link that I posted on the last page.

White supremacists bringing up black on white crime does not equate to anyone bringing up black on white crime being a white supremacist. You're making that connection because you want to make that connection. If whites are demonized because a black guy running down the street is approached and ends up shot, then I think it's fair to point out that that demonization is unfair to the average white person. We commit far less violence against blacks than they do against us. I'm not using that as a racist dog whistle. I'm stating a fact to disprove the idea that whites are the boogeyman out to get you. We're not living in the days anymore where the Klan is going around hanging a bunch of people. Let's not demonize whites as the boogeyman out to get you, and let's also not demonize blacks either and make them out to be the boogeyman. Wouldn't that be a better way to go about things? I think so.

White victimization complex? Why don't you say Asian victimization complex when they tell people to stop discriminating against them or committing hate crimes against them over the SARS-Cov-2 situation? Double standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5hDzbhE6RA

Whiteness means different things to different people, but it's just an extremely divisive way of talking about what one perceives to be the problem. Imagine someone going on the news and saying we need to combat blackness, or we need to combat Jewishness. If these activists want more support, don't demonize the word white. Speak out against injustice and racism, not 'whiteness'. And as far as the bending the knee thing that I brought up before, that was meant both figuratively and literally. White silence equals violence is what's being said, and maybe I'm wrong, but I take that as either you support our agenda, or you're a racist. A black basketball player chose not to kneel before the game when everyone else did, or wear the BLM shirt, and a sports journalist seriously asked him, "Do you believe that black lives matter?" And then there's stuff like this happening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA-mbSkQM6M

Of course blacks are right to demand a black agenda from political candidates. Of course they are right to demand better treatment from the legal system. Of course they are right to not want to see black people getting beat down like Rodney King, or shot in the back running away. They're right to be against no knock warrants. They're right to demand more funding for education and more investment in their communities. If you don't see how these protests/riots are getting way out of hand though, I don't know what to tell you. Murder rates are up. Violent crime is up. People are being dragged out of their cars and beaten. Rioters are targeting people based on their race. Blocking ambulances. Attempting to burn down court houses. Pouring cement infront of the doors of police precincts and attempting to set the place on fire. That's attempted murder. This has gone far past the point of being a protest at this point. I support the betterment of black people's lives, believe it or not, but I don't have to support this nonsense going on in the streets to prove that, or support things like defunding the police which most black people don't even want to have happen anyways.

[The Grand Nudger]

You were just casually strolling through the dense tables of data, normal tuesday...and happened to find that one line, and thought "Eureka! This is going to ruin BLM!"...........?

Bringing up the exact statistics, and getting it exactly as wrong and for the same reason as a white supremacist, strongly suggests you got your info from white supremacist propaganda. Or maybe you somehow arrive, all by yourself, at exactly the same misinformed conclusions as white supremacists, for the same reasons. Take your pick.

I say white victimization complex because that's the term used for the main themes of contemporary white supremacy. If there were asian supremacists out there using the same rhetoric, they would probably use the same term, sure.

Linking a fox clip is a bad idea, they've been peddling white victimization entertainment for years. It's their brand. I thought that you had a gripe with BLM on this, turns out you have a grievance with an african american history museum.

The bending the knee bit wasn't meant literally or figuratively. It was a parody video that white supremacists memed so hard the creator had to explicitly state that it was fiction. That he'd made it up, that they were actors, and that it was supposed to be funny. Or, ofc, again, you just happened to come up with exactly the same thing at exactly the same time for your own reasons....which are strangely aligned to white supremacists reasons.

White silence....I, just...can't. Get back to me when the white man shuts up.

I want you to take a breath. I don't doubt that you're a well meaning person, but I can keep pointing out how and where you've been getting your information from white supremacist propaganda. I don't think that a well meaning person can effect the change they wish to see, if they're moving forward informed by white supremacy. I don't think that a well meaning person, had they vetted their sources in even the most rudimentary way, would knowingly disseminate white supremacist propaganda. That leaves us asking ourselves how it ends up happening, and the more stuff like this that you post, the more examples of that we're going to have.

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