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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 16, 2020 at 11:55 am
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 16, 2020 at 10:27 pm
(September 16, 2020 at 11:13 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 11:02 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Very well. What do you think the G20 should do?
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As suggested in the link I provided in the OP:
Quote:Hathloul, and the regime, know that her death might finally awaken the consciences of the G-20 leaders, and spoil the summit. It shouldn’t take that. Macron, Merkel, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau and others who don’t share Trump’s love for dictators could accomplish far more than the summit will by setting a simple condition for their attendance: the freedom of Loujain al-Hathloul and her fellow women activists.
THE WORLD DOESN’T REVOLVE AROUND WHAT HAPPENS IN TBE ISLAMIC WORLD NOR HOW MUSLIMS FEEL, NOT EVEN THOSE WHO, DESPITE BEING MUSLIMS, DESERVE SYMPATHY.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 3:15 am
(September 16, 2020 at 10:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 11:13 am)WinterHold Wrote: As suggested in the link I provided in the OP:
THE WORLD DOESN’T REVOLVE AROUND WHAT HAPPENS IN TBE ISLAMIC WORLD NOR HOW MUSLIMS FEEL, NOT EVEN THOSE WHO, DESPITE BEING MUSLIMS, DESERVE SYMPATHY.
The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say.
Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 3:19 am
(September 17, 2020 at 3:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 16, 2020 at 10:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: THE WORLD DOESN’T REVOLVE AROUND WHAT HAPPENS IN TBE ISLAMIC WORLD NOR HOW MUSLIMS FEEL, NOT EVEN THOSE WHO, DESPITE BEING MUSLIMS, DESERVE SYMPATHY.
The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say.
Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet.
Please address the OP, which doesn't discuss the percentage of Muslims in the world.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 4:10 am
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(September 17, 2020 at 3:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (September 17, 2020 at 3:15 am)WinterHold Wrote: The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say.
Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet.
Please address the OP, which doesn't discuss the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Boru
It actually does.
Anomalocaris was saying: "why should the G-20 care about Muslims, since the world doesn't evolve around them" ?
So I answered him: "The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
1-Why the G-20 should care:
"The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
i.e Muslims matter and their feelings matter by a big mighty 24%. Thus; winning them to somebody's side is a big mighty win too.
So the G-20 should start to care for this big number if it ever wanted to harness any interest from it. One way to please this big number is to actually support it instead of supporting a minority of lunatics like MBS.
2-What the G-20 should do:
As suggested in the link I provided in the OP:
Quote: Wrote:Hathloul, and the regime, know that her death might finally awaken the consciences of the G-20 leaders, and spoil the summit. It shouldn’t take that. Macron, Merkel, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau and others who don’t share Trump’s love for dictators could accomplish far more than the summit will by setting a simple condition for their attendance: the freedom of Loujain al-Hathloul and her fellow women activists.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 4:21 am
(September 17, 2020 at 4:10 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 17, 2020 at 3:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Please address the OP, which doesn't discuss the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Boru
It actually does.
Anomalocaris was saying: "why should the G-20 care about Muslims, since the world doesn't evolve around them" ?
So I answered him: "The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
1-Why the G-20 should care:
"The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
2-What the G-20 should do:
As suggested in the link I provided in the OP:
Quote: Wrote:Hathloul, and the regime, know that her death might finally awaken the consciences of the G-20 leaders, and spoil the summit. It shouldn’t take that. Macron, Merkel, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau and others who don’t share Trump’s love for dictators could accomplish far more than the summit will by setting a simple condition for their attendance: the freedom of Loujain al-Hathloul and her fellow women activists. Please stay on Topic, and that is what the G20 should to to solve problems in the islamic world, not what problems you have with Anomalocaris.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 4:30 am
(September 17, 2020 at 4:10 am)WinterHold Wrote: (September 17, 2020 at 3:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Please address the OP, which doesn't discuss the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Boru
It actually does.
Anomalocaris was saying: "why should the G-20 care about Muslims, since the world doesn't evolve around them" ?
So I answered him: "The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
1-Why the G-20 should care:
"The world doesn't revolve around anybody, but you can stop acting as if Muslims are only "0.1%" of the world and admit that Muslims compose 24.1% of the world population as the official stats say. Either you liked it or not, our feelings not just matter as Muslims; but actually essential for the balance of this planet."
i.e Muslims matter and their feelings matter by a big mighty 24%. Thus; winning them to somebody's side is a big mighty win too.
So the G-20 should start to care for this big number if it ever wanted to harness any interest from it. One way to please this big number is to actually support it instead of supporting a minority of lunatics like MBS.
2-What the G-20 should do:
As suggested in the link I provided in the OP:
Quote: Wrote:Hathloul, and the regime, know that her death might finally awaken the consciences of the G-20 leaders, and spoil the summit. It shouldn’t take that. Macron, Merkel, Boris Johnson, Justin Trudeau and others who don’t share Trump’s love for dictators could accomplish far more than the summit will by setting a simple condition for their attendance: the freedom of Loujain al-Hathloul and her fellow women activists.
And yet, you didn't seem to want people to talk about the subjugation of Muslim women in this thread, which is no more off topic than talking about the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Aren't you employing a double standard?
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 4:50 am
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(September 17, 2020 at 4:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And yet, you didn't seem to want people to talk about the subjugation of Muslim women in this thread, which is no more off topic than talking about the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Aren't you employing a double standard?
Boru He doesnt care about injustice towards women, hence he doesnt care about the root causes and the correction or removal of those.
He is interested in his agenda, the womens rights activists are only a vehicle for him to drive this agenda, and that agenda is: "Others are at fault what happens where i live and others should take action. I refuse to take any responsibility, not as person nor as a group (Muslim/Arab)."
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 5:01 am
(September 17, 2020 at 4:50 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (September 17, 2020 at 4:30 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And yet, you didn't seem to want people to talk about the subjugation of Muslim women in this thread, which is no more off topic than talking about the percentage of Muslims in the world.
Aren't you employing a double standard?
Boru He doesnt care about injustice of women, hence he doenst care about the root causes and the correction or removel of those.
He is interested in his agenda, the womens rights activists are only a vehicle for him to drive thi sagenda, and that agenda is: "Others are at fault what happens where i live and others should take action. I refuse to take any responsibility, not as person nor as a group (Muslim/Arab)."
Agreed. I don’t think he grasps that, while getting these women out of prison is undeniably a good thing, it doesn’t come close to addressing the core issue, which is that Saudi Arabia is the kind of country that would imprison women for asking for basic human rights in the first place.
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RE: G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
September 17, 2020 at 5:36 am
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(September 17, 2020 at 5:01 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Agreed. I don’t think he grasps that, while getting these women out of prison is undeniably a good thing, it doesn’t come close to addressing the core issue, which is that Saudi Arabia is the kind of country that would imprison women for asking for basic human rights in the first place.
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This topic is not discussing what's wrong in Saudi Arabia, it is discussing:
Quote:Quote: Wrote:G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/...story.html [url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/g-20-leaders-dont-forget-the-womens-rights-advocates-rotting-in-saudi-prisons/2020/09/13/fd5f756a-f374-11ea-999c-67ff7bf6a9d2_story.html][/url]
Please stop deviating the topic to make it turn from a request to the G-20 to a discussion about Saudi Arabia.
These women are in prison, the Saudi regime is oppressive and led by lunatics that require a response from the G-20.
Once again I advise you to respect the [Serious] tag.
Thank you.
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