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RE: I think I'm tuning in to the frequency Kenneth
September 28, 2020 at 6:46 pm
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Yeah, that's the funny thing about people..even though we're busily replacing ourselves in any and every way we can, we still imagine that we're better at doing what the machines do better than us.
Probably another effect of the incomplete access to internal models.
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RE: I think I'm tuning in to the frequency Kenneth
September 28, 2020 at 7:16 pm
A TI-83 could beat me at chess.
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RE: I think I'm tuning in to the frequency Kenneth
September 29, 2020 at 8:34 am
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-and a device with no computational power whatsoever can place the pieces more reliably, accurately, and quickly. Biology works with what it has, does not plan efficient or proficient means of anything, and isn't predicted on proficiency or efficiency of task in the first place.
It built temporary survival suits that fuck, not chess piece placing actuators - and it's largely failed by reference to that singular criteria. Our consciousness, such as it is and whatever it is, was derived from and is tuned towards -that-. It may be as rational to expect the ai that we're looking for as it is to expect a toaster to develop a birth canal and deliver a live-born blender that immediately cries out for smoothie mix. FWIW, I think that machine consciousness, if it doesn't already exist, is inevitable - but it's worth pointing out that the sort of thing we're looking for isn't just the long shot that we are, but the long shot that we are multiplied by the longshot of something fundamentally different from us happening along an identical path of development for no particular reason whatsoever - and to no specific benefit for itself.
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RE: I think I'm tuning in to the frequency Kenneth
September 29, 2020 at 10:49 am
(September 29, 2020 at 8:34 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and a device with no computational power whatsoever can place the pieces more reliably, accurately, and quickly. Biology works with what it has, does not plan efficient or proficient means of anything, and isn't predicted on proficiency or efficiency of task in the first place.
It built temporary survival suits that fuck, not chess piece placing actuators - and it's largely failed by reference to that singular criteria. Our consciousness, such as it is and whatever it is, was derived from and is tuned towards -that-. It may be as rational to expect the ai that we're looking for as it is to expect a toaster to develop a birth canal and deliver a live-born blender that immediately cries out for smoothie mix. FWIW, I think that machine consciousness, if it doesn't already exist, is inevitable - but it's worth pointing out that the sort of thing we're looking for isn't just the long shot that we are, but the long shot that we are multiplied by the longshot of something fundamentally different from us happening along an identical path of development for no particular reason whatsoever - and to no specific benefit for itself.
I wish I had a studio so I could greenlight that picture! Toastender a gender bending tale of a toaster that thinks it is a blender but is really just a toaster with suddenly a birth canal that gives birth to... wait for it... a blender! That is a Jan Svankmajer film waiting to be made.
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