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Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
How long have humans been a thing?

How long has marriage been a thing?

What happened to all those that existed before your demanded sanctity?
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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
(October 8, 2020 at 12:54 pm)no one Wrote: How long have humans been a thing?

How long has marriage been a thing?

What happened to all those that existed before your demanded sanctity?

Clearly those who existed before the church existed are doomed to hell for not believing in something that didn't exist!
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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
Quote:so when an actor or some celbrity gets caught diddling some kid, does the screen actors guild have to make things right? do other actors get boy cotted or shat on by soceity for the actions of another man? can you not see this doubble standard with in the church?

Can you cite any cases where SAG protected child abusers and shielded them from the law? If there are such cases, do you approve? Because it REALLY sounds like you think clergy who abuse children and the churches that employ them shouldn’t be investigated or prosecuted.

You do get that the C of E as an organization was complicit in the child abuse, right? When the hierarchy of a church - or any group - creates a culture of protecting people who abuse children, they have to answer for it. 

But you go right on defending the procurers and abetters of these monstrous paedophiles. It suits you.

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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
(October 8, 2020 at 12:38 pm)Drich Wrote:
(October 7, 2020 at 4:01 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If churches were full of people convinced that they couldn't possibly do better...that might explain why they're also full of sexual predators.

I'm good enough not to molest children.  Seems to me like I can do better, even if you're convinced that you can't.

I cant speak from experience but i'm sure all sexual sin pretty much works the same way. sex is like a drug, and what ever your personal drug of choice is, once you become addicted to that flavor it has you. it would be no different if you were exposed to hertosexual sex at a younger age and had yourself a little girlfriend who was into it too. you can rationalize it you can not hardly control it. or if you could i'm sure as many homosexuals point out why would they openly chose a lifestyle that splits their families and ruins careers and lives. or the man who cheats on his wife.. when he has become addicted to the whole adventure of cheating or even the man addicted to porn.. it is all sexual sin, society just so happens to draw a line and forms a specific boundary around one specific sexual sin because most of us do not have or has to feed the addiction with under age peope. but in truth the sin is the same to god. That is why in the NT there is no difference between the word homosexuality and pedophile (why they are not specifically/separately identified) as they identified in the greater sexual sin.) So why I'm sure you and the rest of us have no issue with pedophilia those in the church see our sexual sin as being to God no different that our own sins of choice. After all we set the limits on sex in this society
 not God. God never says 18 before sex. so why should he care if to us it qualifies as pedophilia, when his standard demand a sanctified marriage.

(October 7, 2020 at 4:03 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s nothing to do with God, so untwist your knickers. It’s about the C of E not only failing to protect children from abusers, but opting instead to protect the abusers themselves. look at the title of the thread! "Church of england fails to protect..." the church of england has no police force. it has no army, it has no series of checks and balances outside personal accountability to protect with.. 

You consider exposing child abusers to the light of day to be ‘stupid crap’? Da fuq is wrong with you?

Boru

so when an actor or some celbrity gets caught diddling some kid, does the screen actors guild have to make things right? do other actors get boy cotted or shat on by soceity for the actions of another man? can you not see this doubble standard with in the church?

(October 7, 2020 at 5:22 pm)Sal Wrote: Drich's sense of "morality" has more to do with control and power via authority than anything else.

[quote-mining mine]

I have a hypothesis that Drich is actually a Loki troll (basically someone playing Devil's Advocate, an old term from TalkOrigins), in actuality an anti-theist, which is using sophistry, ad homs, ... and the whole rulebook in logical fallacies in tempering atheist rhetoric.

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Are you really Christian, Drich? You're coming off quite strong, IMO.

glob...

your an idiot..

maybe put my words back in context..

I said you belong to satan your body is his. God only offers protection to our souls. so while here you are satans slave to sin. so if you oppose satan... like if you were to goto church... satan will hate you and use everything in his power to bring you down, and break you of your faith. if this seems anti christian to you. you have no idea what the religion is about. I have personal read and studied the bible for over 25 years. spending 4 to 6 hours aday in study and answering your questions. while my specific doctrines do not follow the RC church (which is to be the bride of satan in the book of revelation) is a good thing!

(October 8, 2020 at 2:51 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Where did I say I expected god to protect anyone?

the title you friggin idiot!!!

maybe you ought proof read the bullshite you post so you have some idea as to how someone might respond and not be surprised by someone confronting you on your own words!

Sure wish one of your conversations with gawd would  include a spelling lesson.

It's hard to take anything you say seriously between your lies and your inability to communicate in writing at least as well as a third grader.
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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
(October 8, 2020 at 12:38 pm)Drich Wrote: I cant speak from experience but i'm sure all sexual sin pretty much works the same way. sex is like a drug, and what ever your personal drug of choice is, once you become addicted to that flavor it has you. it would be no different if you were exposed to hertosexual sex at a younger age and had yourself a little girlfriend who was into it too. you can rationalize it you can not hardly control it. or if you could i'm sure as many homosexuals point out why would they openly chose a lifestyle that splits their families and ruins careers and lives. or the man who cheats on his wife.. when he has become addicted to the whole adventure of cheating or even the man addicted to porn.. it is all sexual sin, society just so happens to draw a line and forms a specific boundary around one specific sexual sin because most of us do not have or has to feed the addiction with under age peope. but in truth the sin is the same to god. That is why in the NT there is no difference between the word homosexuality and pedophile (why they are not specifically/separately identified) as they identified in the greater sexual sin.) So why I'm sure you and the rest of us have no issue with pedophilia those in the church see our sexual sin as being to God no different that our own sins of choice. After all we set the limits on sex in this society
 not God. God never says 18 before sex. so why should he care if to us it qualifies as pedophilia, when his standard demand a sanctified marriage.
Sorry bud, wrong tree again.  Late bloomer, married, not A Gay, and prons not my jam.  

We'll just add all of that to the list too, alongside molesting children. The list of things you think you just can't do any better on. Willing to bet it's a long list.
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RE: Church of England 'failed to protect children from sexual abusers'
I guess drick is lucky. When drick has a Slurpee, he can't get brain freeze.
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