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Why is Vatican a state?
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RE: Why is Vatican a state?
(November 10, 2020 at 7:46 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(November 10, 2020 at 4:23 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Really, why does the Vatican have a status of a state, although it has no permanent population, industry, transport, utility system, currency, or any other of the distinguishing features of a true state? And yet its statehood lets Vatican send its representatives to deliberate on committees of the United Nations, where it wields its vote and influence against even mildly progressive policies like the distribution of condoms to fight HIV/AIDS.

So isn't Vatican's statehood absurd?

It is an Italian funded museum because Italians cant let go of it. Much like Buckingham Palace is funded by Britain because people can let go of that history.

Plus despite the Pope's claim of poverty, worldwide the Church rakes in billions and has global investments. It is a tourist business locally and draws in tourists from all over the world. But worldwide it is a business.

Rather than run through the entire list, I’d just like to point out that nearly everything in your post is wrong.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Why is Vatican a state?
(November 10, 2020 at 6:14 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(November 10, 2020 at 5:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It isn’t really absurd. The Catholic population didn’t want the Kingdom of Italy to have authority over the Church, and the Church didn’t want the responsibility of having to deal with the secular governance of Rome. The Lateran Treaty was actually a pretty clever way to not give both sides what they didn’t want. It’s debatable, but failure to set up the Vatican as its own city state may very well have triggered a civil war.

Boru

Edit: Yeah, what our favourite lizard said. Smile

Oh really. They didn't want to deal with the secular government. So if the Scientologist population decides to make their own state because they don't want to deal with the secular government, would you also find it not absurd?
If the Co$ Had Not only existed, but also controlled a non-negligible portion of land before the United States managed to spread all the way from the Atlantic to the Pacific, and the sort of clout that gives them sympathy from non-Scientologists, that comparison might actually hold up. The closest plausible comparison for the US is the State of Deseret. And even then, Utah being its own country never seems to have been an option.
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RE: Why is Vatican a state?
I think it's because nobody wants to be remembered for rolling tanks on a city populated by men wearing dresses.
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RE: Why is Vatican a state?
(November 10, 2020 at 7:09 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: It's the DC of the Catholic Church...it's its own entity.

The District of Columbia was created to prevent any one state from "owning" the US capital. This suspiciousness and jealousy went as far as the military, where the Secretaries had to report each year where new officers came from (state), where they were born (if not in the US), who sponsored them for an officer's slot, etc.
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