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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 9, 2020 at 11:53 pm
(December 9, 2020 at 11:36 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (December 9, 2020 at 9:44 pm)WinterHold Wrote: And trouble is, I have already told you that the current life - which is now- would end; and then we shall be resurrected again in a second life.
The first life is finite, the second life is infinite.
A ticket to alpha centauri, jettison the bad eggs en route in a black hole, and we get to live forever?
But wait...theeeeeres more!
Yes. The Quran stated that those in hell will endure:
Quote:Sura 35, The Quran:
https://quran.com/35/36?translations=
(36) And those who have denied—for them is the fire of Hell wherein they are never finished off and thus die, nor is its punishment lightened for them. Thus We repay every staunch denier1 . Fadel Soliman, Bridges’ translation
While the ones in paradise will endure:
Quote:Sura 15,The Quran:
https://quran.com/15/48?translations=
(45) Indeed, the righteous will be amid Gardens and springs. Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
(46) ˹It will be said to them,˺ “Enter in peace and security.” Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
(47) We will remove whatever bitterness they had in their hearts.1 In a friendly manner, they will be on thrones, (48) facing one another. Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
(49) No fatigue will touch them there, nor will they ever be asked to leave. Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 9, 2020 at 11:57 pm
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The truth is that Quran is completely ignorant of the Moon, and Muslim scholars have been corrupting the Quran and also verses about the Moon to deceive Muslims into thinking that Quran is somehow in tune with modern science, and save Islam first from embarrassment and then its downfall.
I saw Apostate Prophet talking about this thing
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 3:25 am
Obviously I don't agree with Winterhold that there's anything miraculous in these verses, but am not sure if this is even about an eclipse (how we understand it). It's some strange event (sun and moon being joined together) that's supposed to happen on Judgement Day.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 8:10 am
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Looks like magic book says all of the atheists will be in a black hole. Choice. I was worried that we might get stuck with muslims on alpha centauri. Don't even know why I'd go through the trouble of making the trip if the place is filthy with the same sort of nuts as back home. Glad that's cleared up.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm
(December 10, 2020 at 3:25 am)Grandizer Wrote: Obviously I don't agree with Winterhold that there's anything miraculous in these verses, but am not sure if this is even about an eclipse (how we understand it). It's some strange event (sun and moon being joined together) that's supposed to happen on Judgement Day.
Exactly. Some atheists here insist however that it should be about an eclipse, so they can lay out their astronomical insights 
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 2:46 pm
(December 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: (December 10, 2020 at 3:25 am)Grandizer Wrote: Obviously I don't agree with Winterhold that there's anything miraculous in these verses, but am not sure if this is even about an eclipse (how we understand it). It's some strange event (sun and moon being joined together) that's supposed to happen on Judgement Day.
Exactly. Some atheists here insist however that it should be about an eclipse, so they can lay out their astronomical insights
Not exactly - atheists are not waiting, and planning, for a Judgement Day.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 4:16 pm
(December 10, 2020 at 2:46 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (December 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Exactly. Some atheists here insist however that it should be about an eclipse, so they can lay out their astronomical insights
Not exactly - atheists are not waiting, and planning, for a Judgement Day.
That's not my point. Someone who doesn't understand Arabic should refer to mainstream exegesis of the Qur'an, not attempt stupid lone wolf interpretations.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 4:30 pm
Horseshit is horseshit, in any language.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm
Listen to these ethnocentric pieces of shit. Telling us that we can't possibly understand the words of a god...unless we understand their language.
Go fuck yourselves.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 10, 2020 at 4:51 pm
I think their particular brand of cockamamie dogma strictly forbids such actions.
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