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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:05 pm
You provide your faith as it is, which looks to be a product of western syncretism and islamist revision.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:06 pm
(December 11, 2020 at 1:02 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I don't care what you or the other nutballs generally believe anymore than you care what catholics and protestants generally believe.
Magic book was commissioned and produced after the death of Big Mo. If that's a problem for you, like the method of it's construction is a problem for you, like hadith is a problem for you, so be it.
I find it hard to agree with you because our faith as Muslims is based on this bit: the Quran is written since the time of Mohammed.
So we wont change our faith for you; sorry.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:09 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2020 at 1:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That would be a hell of a problem for your faith, since it's own founders exhaustively recorded otherwise.
I don't see why a person should be required to believe something that is untrue in order to be a muslim, though I suppose it just goes with the territory?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:11 pm
This talk of ahadith reminds me of that scene from Steve Martin's "The Jerk," where he proclaims that he doesn't need anything! Except this ashtray... and this thermos... and this lamp.... and this chair....
Progressive revelation is funny.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:12 pm
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(December 11, 2020 at 1:09 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That would be a hell of a problem for your faith, since it's own founders exhaustively recorded otherwise.
Are you sure? but the wikipedia link says you're a liar:
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Quote:Sunni and Shia scholars generally believe that the Quran was written down in its entirety at the time of Muhammad's death.[citation needed] Muhammad's cousin Ibn Abbas describes the way in which the final version of the Quran was fixed: "the prophet recited the book before Gabriel every year in the month of Ramadan, and in the month in which he died he recited it before him twice."[18] It is believed that the term "reciting the Quran twice" means compiling all the Quranic revelations into a complete and final version. It is understood[citation needed] that toward the end of Muhammad's life a special act of revelation occurred in which a final and complete version of the Quran was created. The term 'recite', which is used here, is referring to the custom where a Quranic scholar recites the entire Quran from beginning to end a number of times before a senior scholar. According to this tradition the act of recital is being performed by Muhammad, with the angel Gabriel playing the role of superior authority.[19] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of..._tradition
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Do you see the very large "generally"?
It means that our faith as Muslims for 1400 years have been different from what you say.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:14 pm
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No, it tells us that shia and sunni have generally silly beliefs that they agree on - which we already knew.
Magic book was commissioned and produced after the death of Big Mo. Fact. If your faith has a problem with facts....that's a problem for your faith - not facts. It's up to you to decide whether being wrong about this is a requirement of your faith. I think it would be silly, but it is your faith, after all.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:16 pm
(December 11, 2020 at 1:14 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No, it tells us that shia and sunni have generally silly beliefs that they agree on - which we already knew.
Magic book was commissioned and produced after the death of Big Mo. Fact. If your faith has a problem with facts....that's a problem for your faith - not facts. It's up to you to decide whether being wrong about this and in contradiction to trivial facts of history is a requirement of your faith.
I'm sorry but I don't understand you
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:17 pm
Yes you do, jesus christ that's even dumber.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:19 pm
(December 11, 2020 at 12:50 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (December 11, 2020 at 12:36 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So...you’re NOT leaving, then?
Boru
No, of course not.
My mistake. The PM you sent me led me to believe that you were rage quitting.
Boru
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RE: [Quranic Reflection]: moon absorbed by the sun in the Quran: far future.
December 11, 2020 at 1:42 pm
(December 11, 2020 at 12:52 pm)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Bellydancers are trolls with no morals; they bellydance around morals because they have none. Bellydancers love to chop off hands for no good reasons too.
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