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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 2:28 pm
(January 5, 2021 at 10:16 am)rado84 Wrote: (January 5, 2021 at 7:01 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Promoting terrorism is against Forum rules, as is misquoting other members.
I suggest you stop doing both.
Boru
With so many fake atheists here I'm beginning to lose interest in this forum anyway. But I'll stay a little longer in order to see how far this forum's fake atheism will go. Don't stay on our account.
Maybe Facebook will take you back with an alter-ego.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 2:41 pm
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@ FlatAssembler
Maybe a thought experiment would help. Imagine that you find yourself at the center of an elaborate trick. You wake up sitting on the floor of a room that is completely unremarkable in any perceivable way. Would you consider yourself irrational for believing that the ceiling is up and the floor is down? If it turns out that the ceiling is in, and the floor is out..because I'm laughing my ass off in the control room of a giant centrifuge - that you were wrong - would that mean that you were being irrational?
Likely no in either case, yeah? Your beliefs about the room matched your reasons for belief - and so, if on the basis of those beliefs which match your reasons... you decide to put a glass of water on the top of the table, rather than the side, you'll have been behaving and making decisions in a rational manner. It might all go to shit if I turn off the machine, ofc, and you'll probably end up wet, and you were wrong the whole time...but it was rational in the same sense that society is contended to be rational and that insurrections, insurgencies, massacres, genocides, and wars are contended to be rational. In the same way that prisons are contended to be rational.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 2:52 pm
His methodology is pretty fucked as well. ‘I went to a prison and no one was there’ is about as empirically useful as saying, ‘I went to Africa and saw no camels, therefore camels do not exist’.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 3:12 pm
(January 3, 2021 at 4:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 3, 2021 at 4:09 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: The exact same reason it is reasonable to believe in Doctor Albert Einstein and not Professor James Moriarty...
One is real. One is fictional.
Watch who yer calling ‘fictional’, pally. 
Boru
Who are you - Vic Fontaine?
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 3:29 pm
(January 5, 2021 at 3:12 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: (January 3, 2021 at 4:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Watch who yer calling ‘fictional’, pally.
Boru
Who are you - Vic Fontaine?
Had to look that up.
No, I’m a baritone.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 3:39 pm
(January 5, 2021 at 2:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: His methodology is pretty fucked as well. ‘I went to a prison and no one was there’ is about as empirically useful as saying, ‘I went to Africa and saw no camels, therefore camels do not exist’.
Boru
It's not the same thing. I went to the prison at the time when the theory that prisons exist predicts there will be many people there, that is, at the time of visits.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 3:40 pm
You went where, again? Seems like you arranged a pretty convincing demonstration of a prisons existence.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 4:00 pm
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(January 5, 2021 at 3:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You went where, again? Seems like you arranged a pretty convincing demonstration of a prisons existence.
I went to the entrance of the prison in Osijek, at the visiting time.
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 6:35 pm
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(January 5, 2021 at 3:29 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 5, 2021 at 3:12 pm)onlinebiker Wrote: Who are you - Vic Fontaine?
Had to look that up.
No, I’m a baritone.
Boru He's the only (self aware) artificially constructed (i.e. fictional) guy I know that uses the term "pally".....
My favorite DS9 character...
He calls himself "a lightbulb".....
Quite the concept. An artificial intelligence that parrots human reality - but is self aware that he is an artificial entity - and has a sense of humor about it.....
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RE: "Why is it reasonable to believe in prisons, but not in the hell?"
January 5, 2021 at 11:50 pm
Oh look! A theist trying on scepticism for the first time. Isn't it cute!
(January 5, 2021 at 4:00 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: I went to the entrance of the prison in Osijek, at the visiting time.
Wearing a mask. During a pandemic. Perhaps there's a reason they don't want visitors.
My brother works in a prison. I've been there.
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