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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 8:41 am
Someone should start a limo service to take women from Arkansas to abortion clinics in adjoining states AT NO COST to the women.
It might even increase the abortion rate for women from Arkansas...
I' d donate the first $50......
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 8:44 am
They'd just demand that any limo offering the service be made with doors as wide as an er hallway.
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 8:44 am
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 10:52 am
(March 16, 2021 at 8:41 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Someone should start a limo service to take women from Arkansas to abortion clinics in adjoining states AT NO COST to the women.
It might even increase the abortion rate for women from Arkansas...
I' d donate the first $50......
Probably a very bad idea. I don't know yet about Arkansas, but in some other states that is already considered a conspiracy to commit a murder.
Here's an example
Quote:Even women who seek lawful abortions out of state may not escape punishment. If a Georgia resident plans to travel elsewhere to obtain an abortion, she may be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, punishable by 10 years’ imprisonment. An individual who helps a woman plan her trip to get an out-of-state abortion, or transports her to the clinic, may also be charged with conspiracy. These individuals, after all, are “conspiring” to end of the life of a “person” with “full legal recognition” under Georgia law.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019...rison.html
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 11:07 am
(March 16, 2021 at 10:52 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (March 16, 2021 at 8:41 am)onlinebiker Wrote: Someone should start a limo service to take women from Arkansas to abortion clinics in adjoining states AT NO COST to the women.
It might even increase the abortion rate for women from Arkansas...
I' d donate the first $50......
Probably a very bad idea. I don't know yet about Arkansas, but in some other states that is already considered a conspiracy to commit a murder.
Here's an example
Quote:Even women who seek lawful abortions out of state may not escape punishment. If a Georgia resident plans to travel elsewhere to obtain an abortion, she may be charged with conspiracy to commit murder, punishable by 10 years’ imprisonment. An individual who helps a woman plan her trip to get an out-of-state abortion, or transports her to the clinic, may also be charged with conspiracy. These individuals, after all, are “conspiring” to end of the life of a “person” with “full legal recognition” under Georgia law.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019...rison.html
I can' t see that holding up.
One state can' t make laws that make it illegal for you to do something in another state where it is legal....
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 11:12 am
(March 16, 2021 at 11:07 am)onlinebiker Wrote: (March 16, 2021 at 10:52 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Probably a very bad idea. I don't know yet about Arkansas, but in some other states that is already considered a conspiracy to commit a murder.
Here's an example
I can' t see that holding up.
One state can' t make laws that make it illegal for you to do something in another state where it is legal....
It's conspiracy, not murder. The murder happens in the other state, the conspiracy in this one.
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 11:41 am
Well, ob, I'm not saying that your heart isn't in the right place, but they got ahead of you.
This reminds me of that passus by Sam Harris from "Letter to a Christian nation"
Quote:the "moral" position of the Church on this matter is now fully and horribly incarnated in the country of El Salvador. In El Salvador, abortion is now illegal under all circumstances.
There are no exceptions for rape or incest. The moment a woman shows up at a hospital with a perforated uterus, indicating that she has had a back-alley abortion, she is shackled to her hospital bed and her body is treated as a crime scene. Forensic doctors soon arrive to examine her womb and cervix. There are women now serving prison sentences thirty years long for terminating their pregnancies. Imagine this, in a country that also stigmatizes the use of contraception as a sin against God.
Doesn't that also resemble the Inquisition when priests would strip naked a woman that was suspected of being a witch and then lasciviously inspected her body for "devil's marks"?
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 12:44 pm
(March 16, 2021 at 11:12 am)Angrboda Wrote: (March 16, 2021 at 11:07 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I can' t see that holding up.
One state can' t make laws that make it illegal for you to do something in another state where it is legal....
It's conspiracy, not murder. The murder happens in the other state, the conspiracy in this one.
But it isn't.
Nice thing about technicalities.
You call the limo service for a ride - from point A to point B and back. The limo driver is not performing an illegal service or even a legal abortion. He is providing transportation. The doctor will provide the abortion - legally.
If these hillbilly cocksuckers can enforce their pinhead ideas in other states - they have another thing coming....
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 1:39 pm
(March 16, 2021 at 8:44 am)Eleven Wrote: (March 15, 2021 at 4:20 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ^Until I saw that, I had never heard of Dr. Willie Parker. But now I have, and I'm a better person for it.
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That comes off kinda snarky. Who pissed in your cornflakes?
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RE: Arkansas abortion bill, Roe vs. Wade
March 16, 2021 at 2:08 pm
So far this session, they have passed laws against trans kids playing sports, trans kids having operations, and are currently considering a bill allowing a doctor to deny care to a patient due to "moral objections." Basically anything they can think of to give their crooked asses Christian moral high ground. This is worst legislature during my adult life, and with Sarah Sanders running for governor, it's only going to get worse.
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