Are lockdowns justified?

[arewethereyet]

First off, they should not be called "lockdowns" anymore than seatbelt laws should be called "anti car".

In the history of natural disasters, there have been mandates that require manditory evacuations. 

If the government medical experts tell you to do this or that, they are not trying to punish anyone, they are simply telling you this is what needs to be done to reduce harm.

Your first sentence makes no damn sense.  

Mandatory evacuations aren't followed by everyone.  My grandmother left the Outer Banks exactly one time in her 80 odd years there and lord knows how many evacuations were ignored not only by her but by others.  There were a couple people left in New Orleans when Katrina went through, IIRC.

Those evacuations are strong recommendations at best and the most the government can do it warn people that emergency services may not be available to them if they stay.  

You supposedly live in a coastal town and should know that.

[Brian37]

Not this shit again.

America has a 320 million population. 1% of that would still be almost 3 million deaths.

At this point we are lucky, but with still over 540,000 deaths. If cars were recalled at the same rate every time a air bag or break or ignition caused a death, we would damned sure do somthing about it.

We’ve been over this, mate - that’s not how percentages work.

Boru

Not the point.

A pandemic cannot be treated like any every day spread of a ininately less leathal virus.

[arewethereyet]

We’ve been over this, mate - that’s not how percentages work.

Boru

Not the point.

A pandemic cannot be treated like any every day spread of a ininately less leathal virus.

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Brian, come on, two words out of three?  I can suss out what you meant by "leathal"  and I think the other maybe, could be, infinitely.

And that would be "an" ininately not "a".

You really don't need to post trivia.  Figuring out your posts is challenging enough.

[The Architect Of Fate]

If you get Covid you have a 99% survival rate, the lockdowns are silly

You realize Covid has health effects even if you survive it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...t-20490351

So it's best to not get it in the first place.

Oh and 1% is  serious 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshe...a6622e138b

[Peebothuhlu]

At work.

For a new novel disease to which a victim's body is risking sheer pot-luck chance as to whether their/its systems fights it off or not AND is 'Easily' air and surface transmittible ON TOP OF irresponsible individuals NOT giving a flying fek for other people's safety be REFUSING to 'Mask up'? Because there innitially was NO, NIL, ZIP, NADDA, NIX, ZERO vaccine?

YES! Stay the FEK away from people you bunch of ignorant toe-rags.

Fek's sake, wondering if it's a 'Bad thing' that it's come to enforcing some 'Responsibility'. Ignorant fekkin' wankers.

[Irreligious Atheist]

I think they are a bit overboard. I don't mind wearing a mask, but people getting charged here in Canada for organizing freedom rallies is outrageous. When BLM were rallying here in my city, the top public health official marched with them and said it was ok to go as long as you isolated for two weeks after. Then when it was people protesting against the politicians rather than the police, that protesting suddenly became unacceptable and organizers were and are still being charged.

Canada has or had curfews in Quebec. Homeless people are being ticketed for violating curfew. People fined for playing Pokemon Go alone in parking lots. This is beyond stupidity.

[Rev. Rye]

Um, what exactly are “Freedom Rallies” and who was charged? And have they exhibited the same sort of relative restraint that the vast majority of BLM protests have, even in the behavioral sink that is the USA? Were they protesting for something that they’ve been trying to get for centuries and still haven’t gotten or are they just trying to beat up the public health of Canada for its milk money and hoping they don’t get sick in the process? And are they at least likely to follow the same protocols that they asked the BLM protesters to follow or (as I’m starting to suspect) are their goals diametrically opposed to such things?

[The Architect Of Fate]

I think they are a bit overboard.

Nope it's perfect and its objectors are a bunch of selfish crybabies.

 I don't mind wearing a mask, but people getting charged here in Canada for organizing freedom rallies is outrageous.

Those psychopaths are getting off light, And they aren't freedom anything their an "I'm a selfish asshole rally"

 When BLM were rallying here in my city, the top public health official marched with them and said it was ok to go as long as you isolated for two weeks after.

Yup because that was for a worthy cause and didn't have any real impact on the spread.

 Then when it was people protesting against the politicians rather than the police, that protesting suddenly became unacceptable and organizers were and are still being charged.

Yup, those crybaby superspreader rallies were justly brought down.

Canada has or had curfews in Quebec.

Good

 

Homeless people are being ticketed for violating curfew.

Doesn't matter they will never have to pay it.

 People fined for playing Pokemon Go alone in parking lots.

Good, what the hell are they doing?

 This is beyond stupidity.

Nope, It's perfect. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.

[The Valkyrie]

They save lives.

All the justification I need.

[Angrboda]

At some times more stringent lockdowns are justified and less stringent ones are justified at other times. What is not justified is the excessive removal of lockdowns dictated by politics rather than science.