They win this time.... (Wisconsin)

[Ubermensch]

Empowering people is fine, we should strive to empower more people, particularly minorities. Entitled, now that's a different story. When people feel they deserve something without earning it, well that's not okay.

Empowering people is only fine so long as they are all on your side. After that, it is no longer 'fine'.

You're positively macchiavellian, I think I'm a little bit smitten.

[HeyItsZeus]

No one said the majority of Americans are smart... we are sheep like the rest of the world.

I am not old enough to vote but if I was I would only vote for someone with no outside interests with corporations. Lobbying has no place in a successful democracy.

Lobbying has a place in a successful democracy, Bad Lobbylists however can go rot in hell

No such thing as good corporate lobbyists.

[Violet]

You're positively macchiavellian, I think I'm a little bit smitten.

Never do know how to respond to compliments...

[Ubermensch]

Nothin' to do but sit back and enjoy it, baby.

[corndog36]

With organization of the masses comes power to the masses. Not a wise decision to allow it in all cases.

With organization of the masses comes power to the organizers of the masses. Power corrupts.

[Violet]

With organization of the masses comes power to the masses. Not a wise decision to allow it in all cases.

With organization of the masses comes power to the organizers of the masses. Power corrupts.

When you kill the leader of the masses, the second leader takes over. When you kill that, the third leader takes over. When you kill that the next one takes over, and you've turned the last three into martyrs.

The people then rally behind the injustice, and feel even more empowered. Only way to really win against a mass of organized people is to crush their spirit. Then you don't lose your people resource while still managing to put the organized mass down.