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Noteworthy News
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(March 20, 2022 at 11:29 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(March 20, 2022 at 8:38 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Yeah, but we pray for things like football games and a good fishin' trip.  Why we gonna bother praying for healthcare?

IK,R? I don't give a pinch of feces about sports, and am shit with fishing. I pay for healthcare, and would prefer that the gov did more.

You'd still be paying for healthcare, every April 15th. There is no free ride, it's simply a cost shift.
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(March 21, 2022 at 8:29 am)brewer Wrote:
(March 20, 2022 at 11:29 pm)Fireball Wrote: IK,R? I don't give a pinch of feces about sports, and am shit with fishing. I pay for healthcare, and would prefer that the gov did more.

You'd still be paying for healthcare, every April 15th. There is no free ride, it's simply a cost shift.

‘Free’ in this context can usually be taken to mean ‘no cost to the user at point-of-service’.

There’re plenty of things the US could do to lower the cost of healthcare to the point where where universal healthcare becomes practical and no (or only minor) tax increase would be needed.

I know this because literally every other developed country in the world has managed to do it.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(March 21, 2022 at 11:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 21, 2022 at 8:29 am)brewer Wrote: You'd still be paying for healthcare, every April 15th. There is no free ride, it's simply a cost shift.

There’re plenty of things the US could do to lower the cost of healthcare to the point where where universal healthcare becomes practical and no (or only minor) tax increase would be needed.

I know this because literally every other developed country in the world has managed to do it.

Boru

You're forgetting that Americans are a special kind of stupid.
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(March 21, 2022 at 11:26 am)Angrboda Wrote:
(March 21, 2022 at 11:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: There’re plenty of things the US could do to lower the cost of healthcare to the point where where universal healthcare becomes practical and no (or only minor) tax increase would be needed.

I know this because literally every other developed country in the world has managed to do it.

Boru

You're forgetting that Americans are a special kind of stupid.

I wouldn’t go that far, but it does puzzle me that the sentiment ‘I don’t want to pay for someone else’s healthcare’ is often couple with ‘goddam insurance company only pays 80% of my medical bills’.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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I can't imagine living in a place where I had to think "can I afford to see a doctor" it just sounds silly
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(March 21, 2022 at 11:35 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: I can't imagine living in a place where I had to think "can I afford to see a doctor" it just sounds silly

I read once that the average cost to the patient for an ambulance ride in the US is $US1200.

Here, the maximum is $88.00 (about $US60).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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I had a virtual appt. with my doctor a couple weeks ago. It became virtual because of an ice storm and their office being closed. I already knew what was wrong and what needed to happen. A 10 minute facetime call cost me $83.20. And that's a discount from going to their office which would have been closer to 120.00. Yeah, I think about if I can afford to see a doctor all the time.
  
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(March 21, 2022 at 11:44 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I had a virtual appt. with my doctor a couple weeks ago.  It became virtual because of an ice storm and their office being closed.  I already knew what was wrong and what needed to happen.  A 10 minute facetime call cost me $83.20.  And that's a discount from going to their office which would have been closer to 120.00.  Yeah, I think about if I can afford to see a doctor all the time.

Here in the UK we pay for the health service through our tax system, but the cost I have to pay on the day is zero, whether I go for a wart or heart surgery.
(most people pay a fee to collect their prescriptions, but if you need things on a regular basis you can pay a one off annual fee, no charge for over 65 year olds or those with some long term illneses like diabetes)
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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(March 21, 2022 at 12:36 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(March 21, 2022 at 11:44 am)arewethereyet Wrote: I had a virtual appt. with my doctor a couple weeks ago.  It became virtual because of an ice storm and their office being closed.  I already knew what was wrong and what needed to happen.  A 10 minute facetime call cost me $83.20.  And that's a discount from going to their office which would have been closer to 120.00.  Yeah, I think about if I can afford to see a doctor all the time.

Here in the UK we pay for the health service through our tax system, but the cost I have to pay on the day is zero, whether I go for a wart or heart surgery.
(most people pay a fee to collect their prescriptions, but if you need things on a regular basis you can pay a one off annual fee, no charge for over 65 year olds or those with some long term illneses like diabetes)

Here, we pay $5 for each new prescription, up to a max of $100 per year. In the unlikely event you need more meds than that, there’s no further charge.

Like the UK, there’s no charge at all for kids (under 14) or pensioners.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(March 21, 2022 at 12:44 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(March 21, 2022 at 12:36 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Here in the UK we pay for the health service through our tax system, but the cost I have to pay on the day is zero, whether I go for a wart or heart surgery.
(most people pay a fee to collect their prescriptions, but if you need things on a regular basis you can pay a one off annual fee, no charge for over 65 year olds or those with some long term illneses like diabetes)

Here, we pay $5 for each new prescription, up to a max of $100 per year. In the unlikely event you need more meds than that, there’s no further charge.

Like the UK, there’s no charge at all for kids (under 14) or pensioners.

Boru
On my husbands insurance plan at work, most of our prescriptions are zero cost.  But when you consider the cost of an office visit to get the prescription, the 'savings' isn't all that impressive.  They find a way to get the money out of you one way or another.
  
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