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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 1:02 pm
(July 19, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Nomad Wrote: (July 18, 2021 at 7:07 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: <snipping some awful and lying bullshit>
You've got the creator and the created mixed up, idiot. Man created god, in fact man created all gods. Therefore we find that god follows us, not the other way around.
Thank you for your kind words. When in doubt or when making a point - engage in ad hominem attacks... speaks volumes about your person.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 1:27 pm
(July 25, 2021 at 1:02 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: "The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good." - Psalm 14:1
“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that... etc.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 2:16 pm
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(July 25, 2021 at 1:02 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (July 19, 2021 at 3:11 pm)Nomad Wrote: You've got the creator and the created mixed up, idiot. Man created god, in fact man created all gods. Therefore we find that god follows us, not the other way around.
Thank you for your kind words. When in doubt or when making a point - engage in ad hominem attacks... speaks volumes about your person.
I didn't engage in ad hominem attacks, I simply stated that your premises were incorrect. An ad hominem attack would be me accusing you of stripping down naked and smearing your excrement all over your body* in response to your previous post. Nice try, idiot.
*Something that I've had the unfortunate experience of witnessing (done undoubtedly by somebody not on these fora) and for which a number of police had the worse misfortune of actually having to deal with.
Oh and PS, quoting bad fiction at me is not going to work. I've read the bible, it was the first step I took to becoming an atheist.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 6:17 pm
(July 25, 2021 at 2:16 pm)Nomad Wrote: (July 25, 2021 at 1:02 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: Thank you for your kind words. When in doubt or when making a point - engage in ad hominem attacks... speaks volumes about your person.
I didn't engage in ad hominem attacks, I simply stated that your premises were incorrect. An ad hominem attack would be me accusing you of stripping down naked and smearing your excrement all over your body* in response to your previous post. Nice try, idiot.
*Something that I've had the unfortunate experience of witnessing (done undoubtedly by somebody not on these fora) and for which a number of police had the worse misfortune of actually having to deal with.
Oh and PS, quoting bad fiction at me is not going to work. I've read the bible, it was the first step I took to becoming an atheist.
Again, insulting me or anyone else will not save your soul, but if it makes you feel better...
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 6:25 pm
Quote:Again, insulting me or anyone else will not save your soul, but if it makes you feel better...
Souls would have to exist first for Nomad to even give a fuck. But chiding the irrational is a laudable act.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 25, 2021 at 7:02 pm
(July 3, 2021 at 7:56 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (July 3, 2021 at 7:49 am)Brian37 Wrote: Yea not as far as the writers history. There was no Data when Gene Rodenberry wrote the original series.
Actually, the writers are the ones responsible for them knowing each other. Spock was still alive during TNG, and the writers wrote an episode in which they met.
But even if they hadn’t physically met, it seems impossible that Data would not have known about Spock, since the later was at that time one of the most famous and widely regarded figures in the Federation.
*adjusts nerd hat*
Boru
Edit: By the by, what’s the answer to your coin question?
I think Brian's original point was good though. He just wasn't up on TNG lore.
My old roommate and I were serious Trekees. And we would get into debates about what was cannon in Trek etc. We would instinctively try to fill in plot holes any way we could. For example in "All Good Things" (great episode btw) there was a plot hole in that, Picard & company created an anomaly that grew backwards through time. However, in the episode they Picard & company go back to the anomaly which had grown forward in time in order to destroy it.
That's not really what the anomaly was supposed to do. But my roommate and I reckoned that (even though it wasn't specified) the anomaly grew both forward AND backward in time.
Very similar to the death of Judas. Two different accounts of how he died in the Bible. But Christians are just as adept at filling in those plot holes as my roommate and I were.
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RE: Would Jesus be a follower of Islam?
July 26, 2021 at 8:27 am
(July 25, 2021 at 6:17 pm)Mercyvessel Wrote: (July 25, 2021 at 2:16 pm)Nomad Wrote: I didn't engage in ad hominem attacks, I simply stated that your premises were incorrect. An ad hominem attack would be me accusing you of stripping down naked and smearing your excrement all over your body* in response to your previous post. Nice try, idiot.
*Something that I've had the unfortunate experience of witnessing (done undoubtedly by somebody not on these fora) and for which a number of police had the worse misfortune of actually having to deal with.
Oh and PS, quoting bad fiction at me is not going to work. I've read the bible, it was the first step I took to becoming an atheist.
Again, insulting me or anyone else will not save your soul, but if it makes you feel better...
Why would I want to save something that doesn't exist, idiot? Oh and if idiot is a bad enough insult to get your knickers in a twist, I suggest you never leave your mammy's basement, the real world will be quite an unpleasant shock to you.
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