The problem of the soul

[WinterHold]

I wouldn't say God is "physical"; because the rest of his soul is unknown to us: we only know the electrical part that needs a physical medium to be generated.

WinterHold, are you familiar with the term "kludge"?  (definition [here])

The more you try to fit religious concepts together with scientific ones, the more unwieldy and unbelievable it becomes.  Good explanations usually have very few elements, rather than elements that need to be rationalized to make them fit.

I'm not fitting science into religious stuff; they are simply "getting organized together" like pieces of a puzzle.
And that is one ugly ass bridge.

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God blew only "a part of his soul" into us, not his "whole soul", I believe that's only the part that gives us "consciousness" and "self-awareness" unlike animals.

Nobody knows what the "original, full and unique" soul of God has; a tiny part is electricity which humans have and that's about it for us: we're so small, so dependant, just an instance of a part, while God is the full, capable, whole, perfect.

I wouldn't say God is "physical"; because the rest of his soul is unknown to us: we only know the electrical part that needs a physical medium to be generated.

That doesn’t answer my objection. If God only blew the teensiest, weensiest, most minuscule part of his soul into Adam, and that part was electrical, it still means God is a physical Being.

Think harder about stuff.

Boru

Of course not.
Electricity is generated by non-physical mediums too:

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-lightning-c...icity-isnt

Plasma is ionized gas, which conducts electricity. Electricity is simply moving electrons. Moving electrons can cause plasma, such as lightning, but only in extreme cases.

[Fireball]

I find it problematic that only humans have (created) souls. But then, only humans create gods.

Got a problem with your soul, sell it.

I Sold My Soul on eBay

[Angrboda]

WinterHold, are you familiar with the term "kludge"?  (definition [here])

The more you try to fit religious concepts together with scientific ones, the more unwieldy and unbelievable it becomes.  Good explanations usually have very few elements, rather than elements that need to be rationalized to make them fit.

I'm not fitting science into religious stuff; they are simply "getting organized together" like pieces of a puzzle.
And that is one ugly ass bridge.

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That doesn’t answer my objection. If God only blew the teensiest, weensiest, most minuscule part of his soul into Adam, and that part was electrical, it still means God is a physical Being.

Think harder about stuff.

Boru

Of course not.
Electricity is generated by non-physical mediums too:

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-lightning-c...icity-isnt

Plasma is ionized gas, which conducts electricity. Electricity is simply moving electrons. Moving electrons can cause plasma, such as lightning, but only in extreme cases.

Plasma isn't non-physical.

[WinterHold]

I'm not fitting science into religious stuff; they are simply "getting organized together" like pieces of a puzzle.
And that is one ugly ass bridge.

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Of course not.
Electricity is generated by non-physical mediums too:

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-lightning-c...icity-isnt

Plasma isn't non-physical.

Plasma is ionized gas that is super-heated:

https://www.psfc.mit.edu/vision/what_is_plasma

Plasma is superheated matter – so hot that the electrons are ripped away from the atoms forming an ionized gas. It comprises over 99% of the visible universe. In the night sky, plasma glows in the form of stars, nebulas, and even the auroras that sometimes ripple above the north and south poles. That branch of lightning that cracks the sky is plasma, so are the neon signs along our city streets. And so is our sun, the star that makes life on earth possible.

That doesn't seem "physical" to me, many scientists actually agree with me:

In other words; it's not a "solid,physical" state of matter:

https://education.jlab.org/qa/plasma_01.html


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[url=http://www.pnl.gov/energyscience/06_99/art2.htm]Plasma is the fourth state of matter. Many places teach that there are three states of matter; solid, liquid and gas, but there are actually four. The fourth is plasma. To put it very simply, a plasma is an ionized gas, a gas into which sufficient energy is provided to free electrons from atoms or molecules and to allow both species, ions and electrons, to coexist. The funny thing about that is, that as far as we know, plasmas are the most common state of matter in the universe. They are even common here on earth. A plasma is a gas that has been energized to the point that some of the electrons break free from, but travel with, their nucleus. Gases can become plasmas in several ways, but all include pumping the gas with energy. A spark in a gas will create a plasma. A hot gas passing through a big spark will turn the gas stream into a plasma that can be useful. Plasma torches like that are used in industry to cut metals. The biggest chunk of plasma you will see is that dear friend to all of us, the sun. The sun's enormous heat rips electrons off the hydrogen and helium molecules that make up the sun. Essentially, the sun, like most stars, is a great big ball of plasma.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Plasma isn't non-physical.

Plasma is ionized gas that is super-heated:

https://www.psfc.mit.edu/vision/what_is_plasma

Plasma is superheated matter – so hot that the electrons are ripped away from the atoms forming an ionized gas. It comprises over 99% of the visible universe. In the night sky, plasma glows in the form of stars, nebulas, and even the auroras that sometimes ripple above the north and south poles. That branch of lightning that cracks the sky is plasma, so are the neon signs along our city streets. And so is our sun, the star that makes life on earth possible.

That doesn't seem "physical" to me, many scientists actually agree with me:

In other words; it's not a "solid,physical" state of matter:

https://education.jlab.org/qa/plasma_01.html


[/url]

[url=http://www.pnl.gov/energyscience/06_99/art2.htm]Plasma is the fourth state of matter. Many places teach that there are three states of matter; solid, liquid and gas, but there are actually four. The fourth is plasma. To put it very simply, a plasma is an ionized gas, a gas into which sufficient energy is provided to free electrons from atoms or molecules and to allow both species, ions and electrons, to coexist. The funny thing about that is, that as far as we know, plasmas are the most common state of matter in the universe. They are even common here on earth. A plasma is a gas that has been energized to the point that some of the electrons break free from, but travel with, their nucleus. Gases can become plasmas in several ways, but all include pumping the gas with energy. A spark in a gas will create a plasma. A hot gas passing through a big spark will turn the gas stream into a plasma that can be useful. Plasma torches like that are used in industry to cut metals. The biggest chunk of plasma you will see is that dear friend to all of us, the sun. The sun's enormous heat rips electrons off the hydrogen and helium molecules that make up the sun. Essentially, the sun, like most stars, is a great big ball of plasma.

Since plasma is a state of matter, it is physical (ionized gas is a physical thing). Since electricity is moving electrons, it is physical (electrons are physical things). Try to understand stuff more.

Boru

[brewer]

I find it problematic that only humans have (created) souls. But then, only humans create gods.

Got a problem with your soul, sell it.

I Sold My Soul on eBay

Meh. Professional atheists, our version of preachers. They do serve a purpose but I don't have much time for them.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I Sold My Soul on eBay

Meh. Professional atheists, our version of preachers. They do serve a purpose but I don't have much time for them.

Since humans created gods, it's not a stretch to say that humans created souls. Therefore, souls should be sold on Etsy, not eBay.

Boru

[Angrboda]

Hey Nudge, wanna change your mind about Winterhold being stupid and ignorant? Maybe even just hedge your bets?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Hey Nudge, wanna change your mind about Winterhold being stupid and ignorant?  Maybe even just hedge your bets?

I see no reason to call Winter ‘stupid and ignorant’ simply because he’s come to the conclusion that the sun is not a physical object.

Oh, wait...

Boru

[vulcanlogician]

The States of Matter

Solid
Liquid
Gas
Nonphysical

To be fair, theists do this shit all the time. They take something perfectly ordinary and "declare" it nonphysical, just because they are confused on the finer points of physicality.