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Marxism, what you got?
#31
RE: Marxism, what you got?
Socialism is a perfect system. But it can be even better, if we, as individuals, work to improve the system.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#32
RE: Marxism, what you got?
Some companies exist where the employees have a significant voice in how the company is run. They are sometimes called employee owned but I'm not sure how accurate that description is. Suffice to day it's better than the typical top-down corporate approach. I doubt this format works in anything but very small companies.
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#33
RE: Marxism, what you got?
(August 24, 2021 at 8:57 am)Spongebob Wrote: Some companies exist where the employees have a significant voice in how the company is run.  They are sometimes called employee owned but I'm not sure how accurate that description is.  Suffice to day it's better than the typical top-down corporate approach.  I doubt this format works in anything but very small companies.
Mainstream American society is essentially an employee-owned company.
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#34
RE: Marxism, what you got?
What part of american society seems comparable to an employee owned company to you?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#35
RE: Marxism, what you got?
(August 24, 2021 at 9:14 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What part of american society seems comparable to an employee owned company to you?
Here's an abstract example, that not many people would think of.......let's say you go to the movies, right? And you're watching the movie, and a bunch of other people are watching the movie as well, and you're all experiencing your own emotions, that the movie is bringing out of you. You all own that experience, as individuals, as well as a group, and you're all together, separate but equal, and nobody is telling you, or anyone else in the theater, how you should feel about the movie. It's an organic experience. An individualistic experience, as well as a shared experience.
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#36
RE: Marxism, what you got?
-and how does that illustrate the way that our society is essentially an employee owned company, in your estimation?

Sure, we do stuff together...but?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#37
RE: Marxism, what you got?
(August 24, 2021 at 9:45 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: -and how does that illustrate the way that our society is essentially an employee owned company, in your estimation?  

Sure, we do stuff together...but?
Society is shaped by experience.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#38
RE: Marxism, what you got?
Sure, and that illustrates the way that our society is essentially an employee owned company, in your estimation?

I feel like we could spend forever talking about society and experience and people doing things together in general, all of the things about society - but I'm only wondering about that one thing about society. The way in which our society is essentially an employee owned company. Could we skip to that part?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#39
RE: Marxism, what you got?
(August 24, 2021 at 9:52 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Sure, and that illustrates the way that our society is essentially an employee owned company, in your estimation?
Yeah.......does that not make sense to you?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#40
RE: Marxism, what you got?
All sorts of things about society make sense to me - that we do stuff together and society is shaped by experience...but the idea that it's essentially an employee owned company..not so much. Is there any explanation for that......?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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