Too PC for me.

[zwanzig]

I've got a friend who thinks it's funny somebody would accuse me of that - as I was one of the guys that dated his little sister in school..... She dumped me BTW...I was (in her words) too horny and handsy for her at the time...

Guess what color they are??.

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying you are a white supremacist but as a defense against the label, what does it matter the colour of skin of someone you dated? Do you think you can't be a white supremacist and date a POC?

[onlinebiker]

I've got a friend who thinks it's funny somebody would accuse me of that - as I was one of the guys that dated his little sister in school..... She dumped me BTW...I was (in her words) too horny and handsy for her at the time...

Guess what color they are??.

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying you are a white supremacist but as a defense against the label, what does it matter the colour of skin of someone you dated? Do you think you can't be a white supremacist and date a POC?

Fuck you, you asshat.


Did you miss that I have been friends with her brother since High School?

How about the fucking fact that I was a pallbearer at their dad' s funeral? How about I had breakfast with his mom after plowing the snow out of her driveway when my buddy was on vacation in Bermuda???


Nawwww...

I' m an old white guy - I MUST be a fucking racist.


Fucking internet know it alls.....

[Angrboda]

I've noted that you don't understand what racism is, so I doubt you're much of a witness in your own defense.

[zwanzig]

What does that have to do with anything? I'm not saying you are a white supremacist but as a defense against the label, what does it matter the colour of skin of someone you dated? Do you think you can't be a white supremacist and date a POC?

Fuck you, you asshat.


Did you miss that I have been friends with her brother since High School?

How about the fucking fact that I was a pallbearer at their dad' s funeral? How about I had breakfast with his mom after plowing the snow out of her driveway when my buddy was on vacation in Bermuda???


Nawwww...

I' m an old white guy - I MUST be a fucking racist.


Fucking internet know it alls.....

I'm sure your friend would love to know that you're using him as a shield to defend any other dehumanizing views you might have about people with different coloured skin.

You can make exceptions for individuals and still have harmful, prejudiced beliefs about a group of people. And again...in case YOU missed it, I was asking you a question, looking for a logical response. I wasn't attacking you or saying that you must be white supremacist or racist. I haven't seen any of that from you but I don't follow you around, either. I'm saying that what you have said about these POC you know is a non sequitur and that it doesn't actually mean that you couldn't possibly hold other toxic views about POC in general/on a whole.

[Foxaèr]

I recall once being referred to as racist when I had particular thoughts on the BLM. It is a fact that some members of this forum just love to throw derogatory terms around when opinions deviate even slightly from their own.

[zwanzig]

I recall once being referred to as racist when I had particular thoughts on the BLM. It is a fact that some members of this forum just love to throw derogatory terms around when opinions deviate even slightly from their own.

Some might. I didn't. If what I actually said isn't going to be read and taken into consideration, then why should I even bother posting? I guess the conversation is over if he's just going to react to what other people have said when responding to ME.

[onlinebiker]

I recall once being referred to as racist when I had particular thoughts on the BLM. It is a fact that some members of this forum just love to throw derogatory terms around when opinions deviate even slightly from their own.

Yup...

It' s ironic but not surprising.

Atheists - rather than screaming "unbeliever" or "heretic" - scream " racist", " bigot" or "homophobe" when someone dares defy their dogma.

[Foxaèr]

That comment wasn't for you, Ten. I have developed a habit of not quoting people, my bad.

But, I do want to shed some light on your shield comment. Certainly, everyone is different, and I am as different as they come. However, personally I am never offended when people want to say they know me as a gay person when they want to set the record straight against a false allegation of them being homophobic. As someone who has a black boyfriend, I have also had to put black people in their place by mentioning my relationship status.

[onlinebiker]

I recall once being referred to as racist when I had particular thoughts on the BLM. It is a fact that some members of this forum just love to throw derogatory terms around when opinions deviate even slightly from their own.

Some might. I didn't. If what I actually said isn't going to be read and taken into consideration, then why should I even bother posting? I guess the conversation is over if he's just going to react to what other people have said when responding to ME.

My appologies. I did go off on you unnecessarily....

Sorta like punching the wrong guy in the midst of a barroom brawl
...

[zwanzig]

My appologies. I did go off on you unnecessarily....

Sorta like punching the wrong guy in the midst of a barroom brawl
...

I accept that, thank you. I understand that there's history around here and I only read a quarter of the topics every day. I haven't researched what everyone gets up to or what everyone has said on every topic.

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That comment wasn't for you, Ten. I have developed a habit of not quoting people, my bad.

But, I do want to shed some light on your shield comment. Certainly, everyone is different, and I am as different as they come. However, personally I am never offended when people want to say they know me as a gay person when they want to set the record straight against a false allegation of them being homophobic. As someone who has a black boyfriend, I have also had to put black people in their place by mentioning my relationship status.

It's a bad argument. And it has no bearing on the views someone can hold. It's not just that someone knows you that makes them not homophobic. The way they think about gay people is what matters and you being made an exception cannot be used as evidence.

If your friend was going around saying that gay people have more diseases statistically or they shouldn't adopt kids because a lot of pedos are gay, but then when he's called out for that bullshit he's like, "Whoa! I'm not homophobic! My best friend (referring to you) is gay!" That is wrong and you might actually have a problem being used to defend his toxic opinions about gay people.

It's a flawed argument that shouldn't be used because people who are racist or transphobic or homophobic can have those views simultaneously to "knowing" people of different races and identities. And it's not impossible for the two things to coexist. My LDS family members for instance, invite me to birthdays, family gatherings, and we have a good time bonding. Yet they believe my identity is flawed, that trans people are confused and inherently predatory, that God will punish people like me. You can love someone and dehumanize them at the same time.