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[Serious] That Trans Thread
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  (December 10, 2022 at 4:49 pm)Lek Wrote:(November 12, 2021 at 2:09 am)no one Wrote: Anyone who wants to abolish the rights, that they themselves take for granted, for others not like them, is not a good human being. As for transgenders, not to be discriminated against in employment. (December 10, 2022 at 5:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 10, 2022 at 4:49 pm)Lek Wrote: What rights don't you have? We already have laws against that, even though many different kinds of people experience it. I'm asking about rights I have that you don't. (December 10, 2022 at 7:50 pm)Lek Wrote:(December 10, 2022 at 5:10 pm)Jehanne Wrote: As for transgenders, not to be discriminated against in employment. We simply deserve the same rights as anyone else, no more, no less. (December 10, 2022 at 9:24 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 10, 2022 at 7:50 pm)Lek Wrote: We already have laws against that, even though many different kinds of people experience it. I'm asking about rights I have that you don't. I agree. As far as I can tell you do have the same rights in the US. (December 10, 2022 at 10:25 pm)Lek Wrote:(December 10, 2022 at 9:24 pm)Jehanne Wrote: We simply deserve the same rights as anyone else, no more, no less. Wikipedia -- Transgender rights in the United States (December 10, 2022 at 10:31 pm)Jehanne Wrote:OK. I looked at your reference and see where courts have rendered various decisions based on gender status. Welcome to the club. Men have faced this stuff in courts concerning divorce and child custody for over a hundred years. Judges render all kinds of biased decisions. Can you point out one LAW that discriminates against transgenders. We will always have bias and discrimination no matter what laws are created.(December 10, 2022 at 10:25 pm)Lek Wrote: I agree. As far as I can tell you do have the same rights in the US.
Your definition of gender comes down to the indirvidual's choice. I now consider myself to be of the masculine gender. I exhibit what are traditionally considered masculine traits. Tomorrow I can keep those exact same traits and have a revelation that I'm really a woman. Do you agree that I am then a woman? If so, are there any distinguishing traits that separate the genders? If not, then how can gender even exist?
 RE: That Trans Thread
December 11, 2022 at 5:49 pm
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(December 11, 2022 at 3:58 pm)Lek Wrote: I now consider myself to be of the masculine gender. I exhibit what are traditionally considered masculine traits. Tomorrow I can keep those exact same traits and have a revelation that I'm really a woman. Do you agree that I am then a woman? I think your case is called Gender fluid. But again, if it makes you happy and it doesn't hurt other people it's ok, and normal people don't care about your private feelings, let alone obsess about it.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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