New Zealand - you gotta be this old to have rights.

[onlinebiker]

Julie - no fucks were given in the ignoring of your yammering.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

And do you have laws that prohibit people smoking around their children?

Boru

Why are you hiding behind children?


Nothing says "my arguement sucks" more than linking it to " save the children".

Your new law still allows older people to smoke around children....

It’s not ‘hiding behind’ children or anything else. One of the reasons specifically give for the proposed law is to reduce the incidence of childhood asthma induced by secondhand smoke.

Yes, people will still be able to legally give their children asthma, bronchitis, and cancer. For now. The proposed law is another step in a programme to eradicate legal tobacco from these islands.

Do you own shares in a tobacco company or something?

Boru

[Rev. Rye]

And do you have laws that prohibit people smoking around their children?

Boru

Why are you hiding behind children?


Nothing says "my arguement sucks" more than linking it to " save the children".

Your new law still allows older people to smoke around children....

Just so everyone's clear, you do understand that Second-hand smoke is a thing, and that it's also a problem that directly impacts the person in question's health even if they never pick up tobacco products directly? It's not like drinking in front of your kids has the same sort of physiological effects that smoking in front of them does.

And I'm not even arguing for or against the law (I like tobacco as much as I love drug criminalisation, with the only edge being one at least gives us useful wooden boxes that can be turned into a guitar), just noticing that there's a blatant hole in the arguments you're making that you seem hell-bent on ignoring.

[onlinebiker]

Why are you hiding behind children?


Nothing says "my arguement sucks" more than linking it to " save the children".

Your new law still allows older people to smoke around children....

It’s not ‘hiding behind’ children or anything else. One of the reasons specifically give for thei proposed law is to reduce the incidence of childhood asthma induced by secondhand smoke.

Yes, people will still be able to legally give their children asthma, bronchitis, and cancer. For now. The proposed law is another step in a programme to eradicate legal tobacco from these islands.

Do you own shares in a tobacco company or something?

Boru

Do you aspire to be dictator?


.....

I like freedom. Even the freedom for dumb people to do dumb things.

You obviously dislike freedom.




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[The Architect Of Fate]

Julie - no fucks were given in the ignoring of your yammering.

No one is ignoring me here but you Debbie. Because you're a huge coward who can't defend your yammering. 

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Do you aspire to be dictator?


.....

I like freedom. Even the freedom for dumb people to do dumb things.

You obviously dislike freedom.

All freedom has limitations and freedom comes social responsibility

[onlinebiker]

Nope. Still don't care Rosemary.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It’s not ‘hiding behind’ children or anything else. One of the reasons specifically give for thei proposed law is to reduce the incidence of childhood asthma induced by secondhand smoke.

Yes, people will still be able to legally give their children asthma, bronchitis, and cancer. For now. The proposed law is another step in a programme to eradicate legal tobacco from these islands.

Do you own shares in a tobacco company or something?

Boru

Do you aspire to be dictator?


.....

I like freedom. Even the freedom for dumb people to do dumb things.

You obviously dislike freedom.




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All freedoms are, of necessity, limited. You, for example, don’t think people should have the freedom to riot. Why is that?

Boru

[The Architect Of Fate]

Why are you hiding behind children?


Nothing says "my arguement sucks" more than linking it to " save the children".

Your new law still allows older people to smoke around children....

It’s not ‘hiding behind’ children or anything else. One of the reasons specifically give for the proposed law is to reduce the incidence of childhood asthma induced by secondhand smoke.

Yes, people will still be able to legally give their children asthma, bronchitis, and cancer. For now. The proposed law is another step in a programme to eradicate legal tobacco from these islands.

Do you own shares in a tobacco company or something?

Boru

True 

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Nope. Still don't care Rosemary.

I don't care if you care. I'm right anyway and your still a coward 

[onlinebiker]

Do you aspire to be dictator?


.....

I like freedom. Even the freedom for dumb people to do dumb things.

You obviously dislike freedom.




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All freedoms are, of necessity, limited. You, for example, don’t think people should have the freedom to riot. Why is that?

Boru

If they want to riot at home, on their own property - I say go for it - burn that motherfucker down!

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Why do you care what they do on their own property?

[The Architect Of Fate]

If they want to riot at home, on their own property - I say go for it - burn that motherfucker down!

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Why do you care what they do on their own property ?

Even stuff done on private property has limits