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Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 28, 2021 at 9:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But you seem perfectly OK with hellish, inhumane punishments meted out in Muslim cultures. Why is that?

Boru

Nothing ever in Islam compares to "Blinding":

And nothing in Christian scripture condones blinding as a punishment. 

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#22
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 3:41 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(December 28, 2021 at 9:28 pm)WinterHold Wrote: https://atheistforums.org/thread-61537.html







Christianity is the home of savagery, mass murder, torture too.
If it wasn't for the defeats Islam plagued the Christian empire with + the non-theist illumination period that brought secular law to replace the Church's backward ignorance, this savage faith would've remained a power.

Keep using outdate propaganda that everybody got sick from.

Dont you have to chop the hands off some kid that stole candy, you self-righteous, lying hypocrite?

Is it outdated propaganda that the Ottoman sultans killed their brothers (Mehmed even legalized it)
Is it outdated propaganda that you are the kind of savage that wants to chops off the hands of thieves, if more civilized people would not keep you from doing it?

Noone got sick of the cruelty of Islam, just you, who loves to ignore it.

(December 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Nothing ever in Islam compares to "Blinding":
Not even infanticide?
Dude, your moral compass is so fucked up, its beyond any yardstick. Hope many muslims can read this and recognize what religion can make someone say, and do.

(December 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Nothing ever in Islam compares to "Blinding":
Oh yeah?
This is 2003, not ancient times.

Quote:A Pakistani man has been sentenced to be blinded by acid after a judge found him guilty of doing the same to his former fianceé.

1) The crime: Mohammad Sajid carried out an acid attack on Rabia Bibi in June after her parents broke off their engagement and gave her hand to someone else.

The judge in the anti-terrorism court in Bahawalpur, a town in central Punjab province, 2) the sentence: ruled on Friday that the convict be given a matching punishment under the Islamic law of "Qisas".

First, yes? in Islam, when you fuck up and do an inhumane crime, you will be prosecuted if caught by law and the same deed you did will be carried against you.
It's not a zoo in the house of Islam. "Sajid" blinded an innocent woman! so let him be blinded just like he blinded the innocent, poor woman.

Second, it's "2021-2022", is your program and arguments that old? so update your database, bot.
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#23
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 7:32 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 3:41 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Dont you have to chop the hands off some kid that stole candy, you self-righteous, lying hypocrite?

Is it outdated propaganda that the Ottoman sultans killed their brothers (Mehmed even legalized it)
Is it outdated propaganda that you are the kind of savage that wants to chops off the hands of thieves, if more civilized people would not keep you from doing it?

Noone got sick of the cruelty of Islam, just you, who loves to ignore it.

Not even infanticide?
Dude, your moral compass is so fucked up, its beyond any yardstick. Hope many muslims can read this and recognize what religion can make someone say, and do.

Oh yeah?
This is 2003, not ancient times.

First, yes? in Islam, when you fuck up and do an inhumane crime, you will be prosecuted if caught by law and the same deed you did will be carried against you.
It's not a zoo in the house of Islam. "Sajid" blinded an innocent woman! so let him be blinded just like he blinded the innocent, poor woman.

Second, it's "2021-2022", is your program and arguments that old? so update your database, bot.

So, Islam DOES support blinding as a punishment. Good to know.

But it’s also time to admit that ‘the same deed will be carried out against you’ argument is rubbish. Muslim societies - by and large - do not support this. For example, if a man is found guilty of stealing a radio, then a just punishment would be to have an item of equal value stolen from him, not to have his hand cut of. If a woman is convicted of adultery, an equitable punishment would be for her husband to cheat on her, not to be flogged.

Get your head out of your arse and admit that you’re a steaming great hypocrite.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
I'll ask again Winter, what would the punishment to you be if it was found out that you hang out here?
  
“If you are the smartest person in the room, then you are in the wrong room.” — Confucius
                                      
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#25
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 4:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Nothing ever in Islam compares to "Blinding":

And nothing in Christian scripture condones blinding as a punishment. 

Boru

There are two versions of Christianity: 

1-True Christianity: or the Nontrinitarianism 
2-Heathen Christians: the mainstream Christians that practice heathen rituals, and overtook the Roman Church.

Blinding is practiced by the heathen Christians, so as many savage, inhumane atrocities. It's subject to the will of the king in heathen Christian societies, and the law of the king is the law of God in their communities.
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#26
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 7:44 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 4:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: And nothing in Christian scripture condones blinding as a punishment. 

Boru

There are two versions of Christianity: 

1-True Christianity: or the Nontrinitarianism 
2-Heathen Christians: the mainstream Christians that practice heathen rituals, and overtook the Roman Church.

Blinding is practiced by the heathen Christians, so as many savage, inhumane atrocities. It's subject to the will of the king in heathen Christian societies, and the law of the king is the law of God in their communities.

‘Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, this is Pot.’ 

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
[Image: icon_quote.jpg]awty:
I'll ask again Winter, what would the punishment to you be if it was found out that you hang out here?


Pretty sure the baliff would be forced to whack his pee pee.
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#28
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 7:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 7:32 am)WinterHold Wrote: First, yes? in Islam, when you fuck up and do an inhumane crime, you will be prosecuted if caught by law and the same deed you did will be carried against you.
It's not a zoo in the house of Islam. "Sajid" blinded an innocent woman! so let him be blinded just like he blinded the innocent, poor woman.

Second, it's "2021-2022", is your program and arguments that old? so update your database, bot.

So, Islam DOES support blinding as a punishment. Good to know.

But it’s also time to admit that ‘the same deed will be carried out against you’ argument is rubbish. Muslim societies - by and large - do not support this. For example, if a man is found guilty of stealing a radio, then a just punishment would be to have an item of equal value stolen from him, not to have his hand cut of. If a woman is convicted of adultery, an equitable punishment would be for her husband to cheat on her, not to be flogged.

Get your head out of your arse and admit that you’re a steaming great hypocrite.

Boru

The argument is not rubbish, the Quran says it should be this way:


Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2:194?store=false&translations=

˹There will be retaliation in˺ a sacred month for ˹an offence in˺ a sacred month,1 and all violations will bring about retaliation. So, if anyone attacks you, retaliate in the same manner. ˹But˺ be mindful of Allah, and know that Allah is with those mindful ˹of Him˺.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

Retaliating in the same manor is ordered by the Quran.

As for what Muslim societies do in their courts; I already told you and so many others that they are not dealing like "Muslims" anymore. I don't care about what they do.

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RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 8:04 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 7:33 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, Islam DOES support blinding as a punishment. Good to know.

But it’s also time to admit that ‘the same deed will be carried out against you’ argument is rubbish. Muslim societies - by and large - do not support this. For example, if a man is found guilty of stealing a radio, then a just punishment would be to have an item of equal value stolen from him, not to have his hand cut of. If a woman is convicted of adultery, an equitable punishment would be for her husband to cheat on her, not to be flogged.

Get your head out of your arse and admit that you’re a steaming great hypocrite.

Boru

The argument is not rubbish, the Quran says it should be this way:


Quote:Sura 2, The Quran:
https://quran.com/2:194?store=false&translations=

˹There will be retaliation in˺ a sacred month for ˹an offence in˺ a sacred month,1 and all violations will bring about retaliation. So, if anyone attacks you, retaliate in the same manner. ˹But˺ be mindful of Allah, and know that Allah is with those mindful ˹of Him˺.

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

Retaliating in the same manor is ordered by the Quran.

As for what Muslim societies do in their courts; I already told you and so many others that they are not dealing like "Muslims" anymore. I don't care about what they do.


But it’s NOT ‘retaliating in the same manner’ (note correction), because the punishment is excessive. If it were as equitable as you claim, then the only Quranic justification for cutting off a hand would be if the condemned had been found guilty of cutting off someone else’s hand.

But your hypocrisy continues unabated. You say that Christians are evil for committing atrocities approved by God, but Muslims are righteous for committing atrocities approved by the same God, because you’re apparently incapable of understanding that theistic religion - any religion - is what makes these people behave atrociously.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#30
RE: Irene of Athens: the Christian Byzantine Empress who gouged her own son's eyes.
(December 29, 2021 at 7:32 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 29, 2021 at 3:41 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Dont you have to chop the hands off some kid that stole candy, you self-righteous, lying hypocrite?

Is it outdated propaganda that the Ottoman sultans killed their brothers (Mehmed even legalized it)
Is it outdated propaganda that you are the kind of savage that wants to chops off the hands of thieves, if more civilized people would not keep you from doing it?

Noone got sick of the cruelty of Islam, just you, who loves to ignore it.

Not even infanticide?
Dude, your moral compass is so fucked up, its beyond any yardstick. Hope many muslims can read this and recognize what religion can make someone say, and do.

Oh yeah?
This is 2003, not ancient times.

First, yes? in Islam, when you fuck up and do an inhumane crime, you will be prosecuted if caught by law and the same deed you did will be carried against you.
It's not a zoo in the house of Islam. "Sajid" blinded an innocent woman! so let him be blinded just like he blinded the innocent, poor woman.

Second, it's "2021-2022", is your program and arguments that old? so update your database, bot.

#1 Children stealing and chopping their hands off
So you agree to have completely lost your moral compass when calling theft an "inhuman crime", and for wanting to chop off hands. So you agree that you are a savage, a brute, an uncivilized barbarian who should be banned from any civilized society?

#2 A man who blinded a woman should get blinded
So you agree that Islam, contrary to what you said in your previous post*, even in your own fucked up view, does have tortures like the Byzantines had?
You know the difference between cruel tortures of the Byzantines and muslim Pakistan? Byzantium was at least 600 years ago.

(December 28, 2021 at 9:34 pm)WinterHold Wrote: Nothing ever in Islam compares to "Blinding":

**making you a liar, as if anyone was not aware of this already.

#3 Infanticide of the Ottomans
Your silence speaks volumes

#4 calling me bot
A more or less direct admission that i caught you pants down in lies, ignorance and inhumanity, again, parading all of them around in this very thread. I will continue to point out what terrible caricature of a human being you are. You are welcome.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
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