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[split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 5, 2022 at 11:23 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 5, 2022 at 8:39 am)Belacqua Wrote: May I ask if there's anything non-destructive that you enjoy? 

At my age you tend to notice the little things -- like today the plum tree was blossoming and the smell was wonderful. It's not enough to outweigh the horror in the world, obviously. But there are some nice things. I've been lucky, I admit.
I enjoy writing, and cuddling with my dachshund.

A pure joy is a good joy.

(March 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: There can't be such a thing as "betters" if human life isn't really worth anything. That being said, if we want to play the "betters" game, I would say I'm better than you (and most people) because I know the truth and have successfully integrated the truth into my life stream, whereas most people have not, and never will. Meaning I'm living a more authentic life than most people, ostensibly making me better than them.

Not to get all academic on you, but the main theme of Existentialism was to ask, "Now that we know life is absurd, what do we do next?" You're in good company with serious questions. 

As for "betters," it makes sense that lots of people are better than me at certain things. A careful re-think of who constitutes a "better" may reach conclusions very different from out current societal consensus.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: There can't be such a thing as "betters" if human life isn't really worth anything. That being said, if we want to play the "betters" game, I would say I'm better than you (and most people) because I know the truth and have successfully integrated the truth into my life stream, whereas most people have not, and never will. Meaning I'm living a more authentic life than most people, ostensibly making me better than them.

The "betters" are probably not here posting incessantly on forums like this anyway.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 12:33 am)GrandizerII Wrote:
(March 5, 2022 at 6:33 pm)Ahriman Wrote: There can't be such a thing as "betters" if human life isn't really worth anything. That being said, if we want to play the "betters" game, I would say I'm better than you (and most people) because I know the truth and have successfully integrated the truth into my life stream, whereas most people have not, and never will. Meaning I'm living a more authentic life than most people, ostensibly making me better than them.

The "betters" are probably not here posting incessantly on forums like this anyway.
There's no correlation.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 3, 2022 at 2:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I know my perspective is something most people wouldn't easily understand, as it's effectively beyond most people's comprehension. I am one of the only people on this planet who knows the truth, or rather, knows the truth well enough to defend it. Most people won't defend the truth, which is why I have written them off as cowards.

Oh, I think you'll find that we understand that you're a lazy fuck who wants everybody to hand everything to you on a plate and who throws a toddler hissy fit every time it doesn't happen.

I'd tell you to grow the fuck up but we both know you won't do that.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 9:18 am)Nomad Wrote:
(March 3, 2022 at 2:31 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I know my perspective is something most people wouldn't easily understand, as it's effectively beyond most people's comprehension. I am one of the only people on this planet who knows the truth, or rather, knows the truth well enough to defend it. Most people won't defend the truth, which is why I have written them off as cowards.

Oh, I think you'll find that we understand that you're a lazy fuck who wants everybody to hand everything to you on a plate and who throws a toddler hissy fit every time it doesn't happen.

I'd tell you to grow the fuck up but we both know you won't do that.
What's the value of "growing up"? Do you even know what you're talking about? So what if I'm a lazy brat? That doesn't mean I'm wrong about anything I'm saying. I deserve to get anything I want anyway.

Like, even if I am narcissistic, I didn't make myself that way, so I'm not responsible for how I am.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 9:36 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(March 6, 2022 at 9:18 am)Nomad Wrote: Oh, I think you'll find that we understand that you're a lazy fuck who wants everybody to hand everything to you on a plate and who throws a toddler hissy fit every time it doesn't happen.

I'd tell you to grow the fuck up but we both know you won't do that.
What's the value of "growing up"? Do you even know what you're talking about? So what if I'm a lazy brat? That doesn't mean I'm wrong about anything I'm saying. I deserve to get anything I want anyway.

Like, even if I am narcissistic, I didn't make myself that way, so I'm not responsible for how I am.

You're wrong about everything you say because you haven't grown up. You're still at a developmental stage where you only think in terms of your needs, your wants and don't consider anybody else.

Oh, and me knowing what I'm talking about, I've forty years of living behind me, a good ten years of it living on little more than fresh air. I have some experience of hardness, self inflicted and environmental. Throwing a hissy fit because my parents want me to help out around the house wouldn't even cross my mind.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 10:12 am)Nomad Wrote:
(March 6, 2022 at 9:36 am)Ahriman Wrote: What's the value of "growing up"? Do you even know what you're talking about? So what if I'm a lazy brat? That doesn't mean I'm wrong about anything I'm saying. I deserve to get anything I want anyway.

Like, even if I am narcissistic, I didn't make myself that way, so I'm not responsible for how I am.

You're wrong about everything you say because you haven't grown up.  You're still at a developmental stage where you only think in terms of your needs, your wants and don't consider anybody else.

Oh, and me knowing what I'm talking about, I've forty years of living behind me, a good ten years of it living on little more than fresh air. I have some experience of hardness, self inflicted and environmental.  Throwing a hissy fit because my parents want me to help out around the house wouldn't even cross my mind.
I'm right about everything I say. Why should I consider what other people want or need? If my mom's kitchen sink is full of dirty dishes, she can clean them hsrself, she better not ask me to clean them, I don't tell people to clean my dishes.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 3, 2022 at 7:51 pm)Ahriman Wrote: I might actually be mentally stunted, that would explain why I can't seem to make any meaningful progress with my life, and why I claim to believe in such retarded ideas. I am profoundly unfulfilled, and I wish I had a time machine.

Well, I agree with you and I'm mentally enhanced, so . . .I wouldn't say that this was a sign of you being mentally stunted or believing in a retarded idea. It's not a retarded idea. It makes sense.

(March 3, 2022 at 10:53 pm)Ahriman Wrote: For as much as my memories define who I am, they also remind me of what a failure I am. I'm beginning to wonder how I ever had friends in the first place.

Relatable.

I struggle with, and always have struggled with, having friends too. In my case it's because my thought processes are too cool for most people's thought processes and most people can't handle intelligent disagreement. Seriously, if I pretended to agree with people I could have lots of friends. Not gonna do that, though. I'm worth more than that.

Just saying that it's possible that you aren't the problem. And don't ever buy that "Well, the majority disagrees with you so therefore you're probably the problem" crap because it's a fallacy and although it could mean you are the one with issues it could also mean you are the one who is exceptional . . . sometimes the exceptions are exceptional.

Furthermore, if anything it's a reason to believe the opposite. Because the majority of people are complete idiots. At least compared to anybody who isn't one. Having humanity on your side when humanity is so god damn stupid isn't exactly something to brag about. There are a few special individuals in this world. Diamonds in the rough amongst all the filth. And that's about it. IMO.

(March 6, 2022 at 10:21 am)Ahriman Wrote: If my mom's kitchen sink is full of dirty dishes, she can clean them hsrself, she better not ask me to clean them, I don't tell people to clean my dishes.

Relatable. Some people just really love double standards. Things will be better for you, I hope, when you are living on your own and truly independent. They were for me. If you don't tell other people what to do then they have no right to tell you what to do because nobody is your genuine superior. That's the whole point of equality. I didn't grow up until I was 25 years old but only because I wasn't allowed to because I was mistreated by idiots. As soon as I started living alone then all of a sudden my life got a whole lot better. I wonder why? Not. Other people are the problem. It really is the case sometimes. And, like I said, most people are fools. You could be an even bigger fool but I don't think you are. Some of us are exceptional and that's just the way it is. Equality means equal rights. It doesn't mean everybody is the same. Some people are exceptional and some people are stupid and jealous and want to impose double standards that favor them even when they are the problem . . sheep, sheep everywhere, or so say I.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
@The L

I cannot thank you enough. You explain things I'm thinking myself but for some reason can't articulate quite as well. I agree with the "exceptional people" premise. I think most people are OK with being slaves (or at least, OK enough to not do anything about it) just as long as their "betters" grant them some kind of superficial freedom. But most people's lives aren't real freedom, and those of us (i.e. me) who want to live lives of true freedom are severely limited in what we can do by the majority opinion of things, which is that, it's OK (or even good/noble/cool etc.) to be a slave. Most people are fucking clueless. I wish I could live on some other planet, away from the idiots.
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RE: [split] Ethics - parental responsibility re: children
(March 6, 2022 at 11:49 am)Ahriman Wrote: @The L

I cannot thank you enough. You explain things I'm thinking myself but for some reason can't articulate quite as well. I agree with the "exceptional people" premise. I think most people are OK with being slaves (or at least, OK enough to not do anything about it) just as long as their "betters" grant them some kind of superficial freedom. But most people's lives aren't real freedom, and those of us (i.e. me) who want to live lives of true freedom are severely limited in what we can do by the majority opinion of things, which is that, it's OK (or even good/noble/cool etc.) to be a slave. Most people are fucking clueless. I wish I could live on some other planet, away from the idiots.

Relatable. I really appreciate the thanks but there's really no need to thank me. But if you are just saying you appreciate my words then I appreciate that you appreciate them. So there's that at least.

Also, better even one or two awesome friends than one thousand false ones.

Hell, better no friends than a thousand false ones.

(March 6, 2022 at 11:49 am)Ahriman Wrote: Most people are fucking clueless. I wish I could live on some other planet, away from the idiots.

I'm a hermit for a reason! I was self-isolating before COVID. And not out of some weird conspiracy theory or paranoia ... just out a preference for my own company.

Great thing about the internet is you can socialize and befriend from a safe distance. Stupidity is dangerous and, thus, stupid people are dangerous, and, thus, most company is dangerous.

It's all relative though. A very stupid person's behaviour may be improved by hanging out with a not quite so very stupid person. It's all relative.

Leave you with this:

“To be alone is the fate of all great minds – a fate deplored at times, but still always chosen as the less grievous of two evils.”
— Arthur Schopenhauer

P.S.

I have fewer than six friends, by the by. At most.

They are awesome people.
Schopenhauer Wrote:The intellect has become free, and in this state it does not even know or understand any other interest than that of truth.

Epicurus Wrote:The greatest reward of righteousness is peace of mind.

Epicurus Wrote:Don't fear god,
Don't worry about death;

What is good is easy to get,

What is terrible is easy to endure
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