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RE: God's Word is Perfect
March 31, 2011 at 2:21 pm
You've given specific reasons out of context and with no grounding theory of justification to go along with it - You haven't satisfied the basics of epistemology.
1. Lay out your theory of what it takes for a belief to be justified.
2. Present the evidence you think is consistent with this theory and indicates that a god exists.
That is all you need to do, even attempt it and you're a billion times more intellectually respectable in my books than fr0d0.
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
March 31, 2011 at 3:01 pm
(March 31, 2011 at 1:56 pm)Rayaan Wrote: I've already given my epistemic reasons for believing in God in several other threads, but, it's just not good enough for you people I guess.
And btw, it's not "my" god or "your" god because there's only one God.
There are no gods. You're on your own and all your praying amounts to talking to yourself.
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
March 31, 2011 at 3:39 pm
(March 31, 2011 at 1:56 pm)Rayaan Wrote: I've already given my epistemic reasons for believing in God in several other threads, but, it's just not good enough for you people I guess.
Our standards have become more rigorous as we evolved.
(March 31, 2011 at 1:56 pm)Rayaan Wrote: And btw, it's not "my" god or "your" god because there's only one God.
Why don't you take the one god and just keep him to yourself? He really is not our god.
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
March 31, 2011 at 5:13 pm
Quote:I've already given my epistemic reasons for believing in God in several other threads, but, it's just not good enough for you people I guess.
We have standards. My standards don't go low enough to accept things like god on faith alone. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I won't budge from this rule.
You're right, it's not good enough for us.
Extremely improbable, no credibility and no evidence. Some pretty good reasons to reject it. 
Quote:And btw, it's not "my" god or "your" god because there's only one God.
Nope, it's your imaginary friend not ours. We've evolved beyond that.
How are ya?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
April 1, 2011 at 9:20 am
(March 31, 2011 at 1:56 pm)Rayaan Wrote: I've already given my epistemic reasons for believing in God in several other threads, but, it's just not good enough for you people I guess.
And btw, it's not "my" god or "your" god because there's NO God.
There, fixed it for you buddy
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
April 7, 2011 at 3:00 am
(March 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm)FadingW Wrote: It is claimed that the bible is God's Word and is perfect. The inconsistencies with history, biology, physics, even internal consistency are waved away as not understanding context or metaphors or any number of other excuses.
Yet even if we have a totally internally consistent holy book, would it be enough to give credit to the idea of divine inspiration?
Or is such a thing no more impressive than a good editor?
It is claimed that God's Word is perfect, but is a perfect word good enough to proclaim as god's?
That's really the catch-22 of it all isn't it. Because the only way the Bible could have perfect consistency and flawless ideals would be to make everything written down therein provable. And as we all know ... faith is not provable, thus it is called, Faith. As a matter of fact, if you could PROVE the existance of God, he would no longer be the object of "faith" would he ... he would become science, because you don't need to "believe" in something that there is already proven evidence of. It would be like me saying yes, I know the world is round but I also BELIEVE it. Unnecessary Foolishness.
"... Is a perfect word good enough" is not a fair question because it cannot be answered. Perfection in the bible (and in all religious holy books) cannot, could not, and never will be acheived because it would inevitably cease to be a religion. You know, just like your ever-consistant math book is not a religion.
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
April 7, 2011 at 10:56 pm
(April 7, 2011 at 3:00 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote: (March 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm)FadingW Wrote: It is claimed that the bible is God's Word and is perfect. The inconsistencies with history, biology, physics, even internal consistency are waved away as not understanding context or metaphors or any number of other excuses.
Yet even if we have a totally internally consistent holy book, would it be enough to give credit to the idea of divine inspiration?
Or is such a thing no more impressive than a good editor?
It is claimed that God's Word is perfect, but is a perfect word good enough to proclaim as god's?
That's really the catch-22 of it all isn't it. Because the only way the Bible could have perfect consistency and flawless ideals would be to make everything written down therein provable. And as we all know ... faith is not provable, thus it is called, Faith. As a matter of fact, if you could PROVE the existance of God, he would no longer be the object of "faith" would he ... he would become science, because you don't need to "believe" in something that there is already proven evidence of. It would be like me saying yes, I know the world is round but I also BELIEVE it. Unnecessary Foolishness.
"... Is a perfect word good enough" is not a fair question because it cannot be answered. Perfection in the bible (and in all religious holy books) cannot, could not, and never will be acheived because it would inevitably cease to be a religion. You know, just like your ever-consistant math book is not a religion.
The correct term is blind faith. Believers can't quite grasp that concept.....once they do.....instant atheist!
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
April 8, 2011 at 12:31 am
(This post was last modified: April 8, 2011 at 12:47 am by reverendjeremiah.)
Gods word is perfect?
Thats great, but I want to know how perfect he can roll a fatty?
..or will it be impregnated?
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RE: God's Word is Perfect
April 8, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Whoa whoa whoa...hold on here...they're all worshiping stuff because its perfect? This actually works out really well for me.
- Everything we worship must be perfect.
- Through my eyes I am perfect.
~ Therefore, you should all worship me.
~ Give a man a fish and you'll feed him for a day, give a man a religion and he'll die praying for a fish.
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