Fascism won WWII

[reverendjeremiah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOWe4-KXqMM

5:30 -6:10=good wisdom

"Fascism is when corporations run the government" - Bill Maher

I agree/

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

Indeed it is. I fear the day that my country is finally completely transformed into a plutocracy and I can only hope to see this fate averted before it is too late.

[Ashendant]

Indeed it is. I fear the day that my country is finally completely transformed into a plutocracy and I can only hope to see this fate averted before it is too late.

Apparently Ukraine is a Plutocracy where most of the top cabinet members are multi-milionaires

[reverendjeremiah]

Well..we are heading that way.. the rich have convinced us to vote against our own interests and to be greedy blood suckers like they are. Soon we will see the end of child labor laws so that families will be able to stay off the streets.. we will see mandatory insurance payments with almost zero coverage, everything will have some sort of law attached to it and the punishments will be harsh unless you have lots of money. Most of the jails will be privately run for profit and their "prison profit" lobyists will loby congress to make as many things illegal so they can make even more money.

How about our prison population versus other countries?

It is obvious we are going towards fascism more and more every day

[Violet]

Indeed it is. I fear the day that my country is finally completely transformed into a plutocracy and I can only hope to see this fate averted before it is too late.

Embrace it, exploit it, abuse it, destroy it, feast on its helpless remains, and shit on those who were once in your position. How wonderfully capitalistic.

Apparently Ukraine is a Plutocracy where most of the top cabinet members are multi-milionaires

Only millions? No wonder they've no real power against their competition. Weaklings band together when the strong comes calling, and plenty often fail to match its power.

Well..we are heading that way.. the rich have convinced us to vote against our own interests and to be greedy blood suckers like they are. Soon we will see the end of child labor laws so that families will be able to stay off the streets.. we will see mandatory insurance payments with almost zero coverage, everything will have some sort of law attached to it and the punishments will be harsh unless you have lots of money. Most of the jails will be privately run for profit and their "prison profit" lobyists will loby congress to make as many things illegal so they can make even more money.

How about our prison population versus other countries?

It is obvious we are going towards fascism more and more every day

We aren't already there? Oh, we still have a fun little 'republic' for the masses to entertain themselves with while the real leaders of this nation remain in shadow? That'll be gone soon enough.

[Anomalocaris]

how do you define "fascism"?

[reverendjeremiah]

We aren't already there? Oh, we still have a fun little 'republic' for the masses to entertain themselves with while the real leaders of this nation remain in shadow? That'll be gone soon enough.

Bingo.

We are already corporatistic. We are at constant war. We are in the fascist grid, and moving more and more towards fascism (as opposed to moving away from it) every day that goes by.

how do you define "fascism"

Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.[3] They advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation and the creation of an ideal "new man" to form a governing elite through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.[4] Fascists believe that a nation requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[5] Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.

Fascism is generally considered on the right side of the spectrum, or mostly on the extreme right side.

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How do you like that Jim on the video? "we should be afraid of a break down of order, we should fear, they are coming to kick your door down..be afraid." And then he says the rich arent currently stealing from everyone else? Our system is so obviously cleptocratic that only a blind and deaf fool would say otherwise.

[ib.me.ub]

We are already corporatistic. We are at constant war. We are in the fascist grid, and moving more and more towards fascism (as opposed to moving away from it) every day that goes by.

I would agree with this.

I don't firmly beleive the current system is pure facism, as defined. It is more like a facist democarcy, a mixture of the two, which in my personal opinion is far more dangerous than pure facism. The US and others have done a good job at covertly assimilating facism into their operating system. Its a bit late now though.

[Anomalocaris]

When you say fascism won WWII, can you suggest some bench mark to show that prior to WWII, we were in fact less corporatist then we are not?

[Violet]

Fascism ( /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical, authoritarian nationalist political ideology.[1][2] Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.[3] They advocate the creation of a totalitarian single-party state that seeks the mass mobilization of a nation and the creation of an ideal "new man" to form a governing elite through indoctrination, physical education, and family policy including eugenics.[4] Fascists believe that a nation requires strong leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[5] Fascist governments forbid and suppress opposition to the state.

Fascism is generally considered on the right side of the spectrum, or mostly on the extreme right side.

So.... I'm with the bold. Not so much with the rest Granted, I have a complex definition for a strong leadership (read: there isn't rebellion or much dissent where such is present, and if it is being actively put down: it is clear it does not exist).

I do not bold singular collective identity because we are stronger when we use our differences and specializations with synergy than we are when we are all equatable meat bodies capable of little different from one another.