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Roe v. Wade is gone.
#31
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 12:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Biden is about to go live

https://youtu.be/U4tdd4XF72w

Who cares? He’s fucking useless. He’s a doormat.
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#32
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 12:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Biden is about to go live

https://youtu.be/U4tdd4XF72w

Who cares? He’s fucking useless. He’s a doormat.

Perhaps this will spur him into action.

He did say he would sign an executive order...
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#33
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: He’s a doormat.

Campaign promise kept, I'd say.  Wink
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#34
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 12:55 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 12:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Disagree. This is pretty likely to get the American ‘left’ mobilized - most USians didn’t want Roe overturned and continue to support access to abortion services. The state-level moves against abortion are unpopular even among most republicans. There’s a better-than-even chance that this is going to increase voter turnout among pro-choice Democrats, Republicans and independents.

Boru

I don't know about that. Liberals have sucked on just about every issue for the past 40 years on keeping focus on what the GOP has, filling judge seats and districting. Our politicians for far too long have compromised in the false hope that Republicans were honest players, and we increasingly cant afford to keep swallowing that garbage.

That is not only nonsensical and wrong, it has nothing to do with what I said.

Republicans made a wedge issue out of abortion. Now that Roe is officially over and done with, the wedge no longer exists. The ‘left’ in the US is absolutely seething over this decision. Look for an historically high turnout of pro-choice voters in November and for significant numbers of anti-woman office holders to be voted out.

Boru
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#35
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 12:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 12:18 pm)HappySkeptic Wrote: This ruling is in no way good for liberals.  The reasoning behind it could take away almost every single human right in the U.S.  Only guns and money have inalienable rights.

Disagree. This is pretty likely to get the American ‘left’ mobilized - most USians didn’t want Roe overturned and continue to support access to abortion services. The state-level moves against abortion are unpopular even among most republicans. There’s a better-than-even chance that this is going to increase voter turnout among pro-choice Democrats, Republicans and independents.

Boru

In the long run It is useless to mobilize unless what is mobilized is whipped into an orderly and disciplined troop able to follow long term strategies and within that context execute complex, purposed and organized maneuvers under central tactical direction.

Individual uncoordinated and undisciplined fervor of even a large majority is no match for well organized disciplined troop.    Even if the mobilized masses is able to achieve some success those successes will soon be fretted away if the masses remains unorganized.

So the left had better figure out quickly how to organize itself into an army rather remain fraction riven mob that has just a few interests in common and not one of those is generally considered more important than each fraction’s pet interest du jour.
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#36
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: P
(June 24, 2022 at 12:42 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Disagree. This is pretty likely to get the American ‘left’ mobilized - most USians didn’t want Roe overturned and continue to support access to abortion services. The state-level moves against abortion are unpopular even among most republicans. There’s a better-than-even chance that this is going to increase voter turnout among pro-choice Democrats, Republicans and independents.

Boru

In the long run It is useless to mobilize unless what is mobilized is whipped into an orderly and disciplined troop able to execute complex, purposed and organized maneuvers under central tactical and strategic direction.

Individual uncoordinated and undisciplined fervor of even a large majority is no match for well organized disciplined troop.    Even if the mobilized masses is able to achieve some success those successes will soon be fretted away if the masses remains unorganized.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to caption the bleedin’ obvious.

And the phrase is ‘frittered away’.

Boru
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#37
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 1:45 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: P

In the long run It is useless to mobilize unless what is mobilized is whipped into an orderly and disciplined troop able to execute complex, purposed and organized maneuvers under central tactical and strategic direction.

Individual uncoordinated and undisciplined fervor of even a large majority is no match for well organized disciplined troop.    Even if the mobilized masses is able to achieve some success those successes will soon be fretted away if the masses remains unorganized.

Thank you for taking the time and trouble to caption the bleedin’ obvious.

And the phrase is ‘frittered away’.

Boru

You are welcome.  You ill graced cantankerous little credit taking twerp.
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#38
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 1:53 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Thank you for taking the time and trouble to caption the bleedin’ obvious.

And the phrase is ‘frittered away’.

Boru

You are welcome.  You ill graced cantankerous little credit taking twerp.

*goes all blushy*

Boru
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#39
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 1:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 12:36 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Biden is about to go live

https://youtu.be/U4tdd4XF72w

Who cares? He’s fucking useless. He’s a doormat.

Well, he did say he will do all in his power to protect women who need an abortion in the states where it is illegal, so I assume that if they get charged with having an abortion in another state that Biden will issue a blanket pardon for anyone convicted of getting or facilitating abortion.
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#40
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(June 24, 2022 at 2:32 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(June 24, 2022 at 1:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Who cares? He’s fucking useless. He’s a doormat.

Well, he did say he will do all in his power to protect women who need an abortion in the states where it is illegal, so I assume that if they get charged with having an abortion in another state that Biden will issue a blanket pardon for anyone convicted of getting or facilitating abortion.

A United States President can only pardon federal offenses, not state ones, which is what Trump is dealing with right now.
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