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April 11, 2023 at 10:45 am
(April 11, 2023 at 10:03 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: (April 11, 2023 at 9:56 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: 800,000 Americans being killed every year is genocide of American people.
If abortion is "murder" or "genocide" then masturbation is a thousand times worse.
All those potential lives wasted!
and all those non pregnant women flushing their eggs away every month!
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 11:03 am
(April 11, 2023 at 6:19 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 10, 2023 at 9:22 am)polymath257 Wrote: Yes. It is her body. Even in the strange world in which an embryo or fetus is regarded as a full person, the woman would still have an absolute right to deny her body for their use. No, she can't kill innocent human being just because of inconvenience.
Quote:And the fetus is not *put in her body*. It attaches and grows into a fetus inside her body. What is put in her body is a bit of sperm, not a fetus.
She willingly attaches fetus to her body without its consent.
She can say that the 'innocent human being' must be removed from her body.
She did NOT willingly attach a fetus to her body. It attached without her consent and she is asking that it be removed.
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April 11, 2023 at 11:07 am
The idea that a fetus can give consent is too ludicrous for words.
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April 11, 2023 at 11:32 am
At what age can a fetus give consent?
1 day, 1 month, 3 months?
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April 11, 2023 at 1:24 pm
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Quote:800,000 Americans being killed every year is genocide of American people.
No it's not.... 
It's not genocide period.
As there is no intent to kill them because they are Americans. Genocide would require this.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 1:36 pm
(April 9, 2023 at 7:34 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 9, 2023 at 7:30 am)Helios Wrote: No, she has every right to remove it whether it got a choice to be there or not. If that results in its death that is sad That's genocide
If abortion is genocide, then why is the only mention of it in the bible is to tell you that it's not just allowed, but in certain cases is a legal requirement?
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April 11, 2023 at 5:25 pm
(April 11, 2023 at 6:41 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 11, 2023 at 6:37 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Nothing at all to say about the male. Clear admission of your misogynistic intent.
Man doesn't make decision to get an abortion.
The man takes part in the decision to have sex, yet you don't hold him responsible for the pregnancy, was my point.
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April 11, 2023 at 6:11 pm
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(April 11, 2023 at 9:56 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: (April 11, 2023 at 9:28 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
Fetuses are not a national, ethnical, racial, or relgious group. Force abortions could be part of a genocide campaign, but voluntary abortions cannot be. Even if you consider abortion murder, it does not follow that it is genocide as well.
800,000 Americans being killed every year is genocide of American people.
Not when 3.7 million American babies are born every year. See, the way it works is that 3.7 million is what we call ‘a bigger number’ than 800 000.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 11, 2023 at 6:23 pm
(April 11, 2023 at 6:11 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (April 11, 2023 at 9:56 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: 800,000 Americans being killed every year is genocide of American people.
Not when 3.7 million American babies are born every year. See, the way it works is that 3.7 million is what we call ‘a bigger number’ than 800 000.
Boru Also, it's not genocide as genocide requires the targeted intent to exterminate a group specifically because they are that group. No one is targeting the fetuses because they are American.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
April 12, 2023 at 6:24 am
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(April 11, 2023 at 11:03 am)polymath257 Wrote: (April 11, 2023 at 6:19 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: No, she can't kill innocent human being just because of inconvenience.
She willingly attaches fetus to her body without its consent.
She can say that the 'innocent human being' must be removed from her body.
She did NOT willingly attach a fetus to her body. It attached without her consent and she is asking that it be removed.
She knows that sex leads to pregnancy so she willingly attached a fetus to her body.
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