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Roe v. Wade is gone.
RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 29, 2023 at 1:38 pm)Ravenshire Wrote:
(October 29, 2023 at 7:04 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Atheists have low fertility and retention rates and are dying out globally. Why would anyone be afraid of you?

Citation needed, you moron.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_of_...nreligious
Quote:According to a religious forecast for 2050 by Pew Research Center, the percentage of the world's population that is unaffiliated or nonreligious is expected to drop, from 16% of the world's total population in 2010 to 13% in 2050.[460] The decline is largely due to the advanced age (median age of 34) and low fertility among unaffiliated or Nonreligious (1.7 children per woman in the 2010–2015 period). Sociologist Phil Zuckerman's global studies on atheism have indicated that global atheism may be in decline due to irreligious countries having the lowest birth rates in the world and religious countries having higher birth rates in general.[461]

https://www.christianpost.com/news/study...roups.html
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: It's voluntary because women are aware that contraceptives often fail

Brakes fail, too, causing accidents. Does that mean we shouldn't treat you for resulting injuries, because you know brakes fail. Maybe I should sue you instead.

(October 30, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: That's only 1% of abortions.

Would you allow or deny those abortions? This is a simple yes or no.


(October 30, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Majority of people both in the US and the world are religious therefore atheist minority should obey their will.
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Yeah, no. Wait 'til someone wants to take your right to bodily autonomy away, asshole. Also, not all religious people are anti-choice, despite your misrepresentation here.

(October 30, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote: Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.

What "national, ethnical, racial or religious group" is being targeted by abortions?

It's sad that you won't admit when you are wrong. Sad, but not surprising.

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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 8:20 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(October 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: So, only infertile women can fuck for pleasure?!?

Fertile women can be sexually active but they should live with consequences of their own actions. Don't want to become pregnant? Don't have sex with strangers.

So you're okay with married women, impregnated by their husbands, having abortions? They're not slutting around with strangers, after all! Why would you deny them control of their own bodies? They knew the man!

Jesus please us, you're quite the robot.

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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
That is because dmitry is a colossal coward, thumps.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 8:36 am)no one Wrote: That is because dmitry is a colossal coward, thumps.

He's been told what to believe, and is dutifully regurgitating it. But he hasn't thought of the fallout of those beliefs.

I'll bet he doesn't know one woman who has had an abortion. Hell, I bet he's newer had a piece of ass.

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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 8:09 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(October 29, 2023 at 12:02 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: 1) Contraceptives often fail. The ensuing pregnancy is obviously not voluntary.
It's voluntary because women are aware that contraceptives often fail
Quote:2) Women do get raped. That pregnancy, too, is involuntary.
That's only 1% of abortions.
Quote:Why you think your religion gives you the right to tell other people what to do with their bodies is beyond me
Majority of people both in the US and the world are religious therefore atheist minority should obey their will.
Quote:No, that's not what genocide is. Look up words when you don't know their meanings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
Quote:Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people[a] in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group". These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group.

First, I am pretty sure it is not always voluntary, as I am pretty sure women are not always aware of contraceptives always failing. In fact, how does women being aware of that even make it voluntary?

Also, I am pretty sure that is more than one percent of abortions, considering how common (sadly enough) rape can be, as rape is at least more common than you think.

Also, more people believing in religion means absolutely nothing. Religion is not in the right in many and/or all cases, and atheists tend to know way better than religious people. In fact, religion is a big cause for war, and more people have been leaving the church or religion in more recent years, partly because the internet exists. Anyway, why should atheists submit to a group of people who are not in the right in so many cases? Religious people just believe, and they do not really know things.

As for Genocide, you have the preventing births thing down wrong. Let it be known that preventing births in this case is not because of a woman's choice, but by force, and it can because of an increasing number of women becoming infertile, too. The people who prevent births in this case are not in control of the woman's body in the case where it is not infertility, which means preventing births in this case is more forceful, and more barbaric.

I think you are not qualified for talking about something like this, Dmitry, for you don't know what you are really talking about.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
Quote:Until 20th century the only source of light known to man was fire and scientists naturally believed that Sun was made of burning coal. They were obviously wrong. So no, evidence is not enough you also need an adequate explanation.
Irrelevant even if we never figured out fire a supernatural explanation isn't justified. Once again we don't need a explanation to reject  another explanation and so far all the evidence points to physical notion of conscience even if we figured it out that's not a justification for the supernatural that has to be proven on it's own.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 8:20 am)Dmitry1983 Wrote:
(October 29, 2023 at 1:37 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: So, only infertile women can fuck for pleasure?!?

Fertile women can be sexually active but they should live with consequences of their own actions. Don't want to become pregnant? Don't have sex with strangers.

So, control and slut-shaming it is...

Color me unsurprised.
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
Quote:It's voluntary because women are aware that contraceptives often fail
Irrelevant foreknowledge is not consent unless the sex was agreed upon for the explicit purpose of reproduction the pregnancy was involuntary unless she agreed to be explicitly to being pregnant before the sex it’s  involuntary


Quote:That's only 1% of abortions.
Irrelevant any percent counts



Quote:Majority of people both in the US and the world are religious therefore atheist minority should obey their will.
Nope it doesn’t how many of you there are we don’t have to obey you



And your definition fails because it’s referring to forcibly  preventing births for the sake of reducing or wiping out a population. That has nothing to do with women deciding of their own accord to not have children
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Roe v. Wade is gone.
(October 30, 2023 at 10:05 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:
Quote:Until 20th century the only source of light known to man was fire and scientists naturally believed that Sun was made of burning coal. They were obviously wrong. So no, evidence is not enough you also need an adequate explanation.
Irrelevant even if we never figured out fire a supernatural explanation isn't justified. Once again we don't need a explanation to reject  another explanation and so far all the evidence points to physical notion of conscience even if we figured it out that's not a justification for the supernatural that has to be proven on it's own.

And that story's not even true. By the time they knew enough to crunch some numbers about how that could work, they figured out that it couldn't be coal because it would have burned out in a couple thousand years,
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.

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