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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:15 pm
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Quote:Oh come on, you sure have a lot to say from the sidelines but turn mighty red when asked to perform yourself.
Again why is it my job to define a fallacy your throwing around ?You chose to run from me buddy not the other way around. I have said to you what needs to be said nothing more.
Quote:What is a false dilemma fallacy?
Again why is it my job to define a fallacy your throwing around ?
Quote:I'm not asking for the same courtesy I have provided yall and ask you to cite which dictionary or encyclopedia you want to define it from, just give me a colloquial and simple definition.
Again why is it my job to define a fallacy your throwing around ?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:16 pm
(November 21, 2024 at 6:10 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: (November 21, 2024 at 6:01 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Also, while we’re on the changes to the DSM-5, here’s the testimony of someone who was actually on the DSM panel for that specific issue.
TL;DR: the way the previous editions of the DSM talked about “Gender identity disorder” was fundamentally at odds with how it actually worked.
Ah, a random Quora poster. Seems legit.
Should I start posting from Reddit instead of citing actual organizations and professionals as well?
Edit - and all it does is essentially state that "Gender Dysphoria" was broken up into multiple pieces to more accurately describe the mental disorders.... oof.
It's almost like what I've been saying all along... it stopped being a "disorder" in itself and instead became a bunch of lesser disorders...
And I take it that we’re ignoring that this random Quora poster is an MD in Psychiatry and Neurology, and, oh, yeah, was actually there when they made the change?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:19 pm
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(November 21, 2024 at 6:16 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 21, 2024 at 6:10 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Ah, a random Quora poster. Seems legit.
Should I start posting from Reddit instead of citing actual organizations and professionals as well?
Edit - and all it does is essentially state that "Gender Dysphoria" was broken up into multiple pieces to more accurately describe the mental disorders.... oof.
It's almost like what I've been saying all along... it stopped being a "disorder" in itself and instead became a bunch of lesser disorders...
And I take it that we’re ignoring that this random Quora poster is an MD in Psychiatry and Neurology, and, oh, yeah, was actually there when they made the change? But his opinion Trumps all that
Because he needs to simp for daddy Trump.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:39 pm
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(November 21, 2024 at 6:13 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 21, 2024 at 6:07 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: "Either you're mighty forgetful, or dishonest. Which is it?"
You make a claim, and then, once called on it, deny actually making said claim. What is the possible third option? Iranian superhackers Managed to tamper with your post without even registering a “this post was last modified by”?
First Stage - Non Sequitur
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Statement A: "Allowing men - transexual or not - into women's bathrooms poses an inherent risk to women."
Response: "You allege that any sort of man, trans or no, is dangerous."
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We begin with a non sequitur that sets the ground work for the later FD; the belief that encouraging men to insert themselves into women's spaces that revolve around privacy and isolation will increase the risk to women does not equal a belief that all men therefor are dangerous.
I allege that a certain type of man is dangerous in this situation - deviants, perverts, sexual assaulters - and that giving them legal protection to insert themselves into areas where women are at a high risk is not sound policy.
Second Stage - Call out on Non Sequitur, response with False Dilemma
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Statement B: "I've not made this claim [i]('any sort of man... is dangerous.'), which is something of a common trend. Allowing men - transexual or not - into women's bathrooms poses an inherent risk to women."[/i]
Response: "Either you're mighty forgetful, or dishonest. Which is it?"
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A. The simple reality is that there could exist possibilities other than forgetfulness or dishonesty, such as...
B. ...the possibility that I am neither forgetful nor dishonest, but rather the respondent has created a non sequitur argument and then doubled down upon it.
As both A. and B. are true it is by definition of a false dilemma; the true choice was never presented to me.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:39 pm
(November 21, 2024 at 6:16 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (November 21, 2024 at 6:10 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Ah, a random Quora poster. Seems legit.
Should I start posting from Reddit instead of citing actual organizations and professionals as well?
Edit - and all it does is essentially state that "Gender Dysphoria" was broken up into multiple pieces to more accurately describe the mental disorders.... oof.
It's almost like what I've been saying all along... it stopped being a "disorder" in itself and instead became a bunch of lesser disorders...
And I take it that we’re ignoring that this random Quora poster is an MD in Psychiatry and Neurology, and, oh, yeah, was actually there when they made the change?
Can you prove it?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:41 pm
Quote:Again why is it my job to define a fallacy your throwing around ?
It's not; rather it's just good etiquette to be able to back up an accusation when you make one.
What false dilemma argument have I made?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:48 pm
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Quote:It's not; rather it's just good etiquette to be able to back up an accusation when you make one.
So in other words I'm under no obligation to do so. Also my statement stands as a fact regardless of if I grant you any "courtesy"
Quote:What false dilemma argument have I made?
I never said you did ? I said it's accusation you keep throwing around.
So to sum up no fallacies were made and your just whining about nothing as usual
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:51 pm
Quote:Can you prove it?
Whose he trying to prove it to?
You?
"Change was inevitable"
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 6:54 pm
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Also it's funny he goes on a rant that demonstrates that no fallacies were committed while trying to demonstrate that fallacies were committed
There are times this forum goes from great to phenomenal
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RE: The Absurd GOP
November 21, 2024 at 7:00 pm
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(November 21, 2024 at 6:48 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Quote:What false dilemma argument have I made?
I never said you did ? I said it's accusation you keep throwing around.
If English is your second language, it's cool I get it - that's legitimately helps me understand where some of the confusion might be coming in.
Quote:Again why is it my job to define a fallacy your throwing around ?
This statement implies, as it is written, that I am the one using the fallacy; if you are trying to make the statement that I am accusing others of it then it would be, "Again, why is it my job to define a fallacy you are accusing others of throwing around?"
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