The Absurd GOP

[TheWhiteMarten]

Drugs are notoriously easy to produce and dose, esp. in large-scale manufacturing settings.

Yes, and what's your point, Ding-Dong? How does the fact that it's easy to produce something like Thimerosal impact what I have to say about its lowest lethal dose and the comparatively miniscule amount put into vaccines?

"Easy to produce" in regards to mass manufacturing has a fairly, though not universal, unspoken implication - "Reduction in quality."

It means it's no longer produced by craftsmen but by casual laborers - you get increasingly less competent, easily replaceable employees to do the same amount of work in less time; even if they make more mistakes you have to throw out, they outproduce the loses and provide a net gain. 


Logical conclusion - batches containing unsafe amounts of mercury will be produced. 

This is not a problem assuming your government doesn't take billions of dollars in bribes (I'm sorry, "lobby dollars") from the pharmaceutical companies or any of the third-party distribution systems and can catch these cases before some greedy snob in a suit decides that pushing out *possibly* contaminated doses isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of millions of dollars.

This is not hypothetical; it happens fairly frequently as well as is why we prohibit certain seasonings and ingredients from being used restaurant and culinary institutions, and I truly don't believe I have to tell anyone how much money the medical industry pours into our government.

[Rev. Rye]

Jews already have strong cleanliness rules thanks to their religion/culture and is likely why they would have lower rates, but I haven't done the research onto if they actually do and frankly... I really just don't care if they do or don't, I would like to see Jews left alone just like I would like to see Cajuns and Texans left alone.

Ironically, if the UK's community is any indication, the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, the kind who would likely be following extra cleanliness procedures than the rest of the world, might have actually been affected MORE than most other groups.

[TheWhiteMarten]

My "problem" is the false dilemma that was extracted from his non sequitur. 

I never claimed they would be given legal protections to commit a crime.

That was never my unspoken assumption, that was just your presumption.

Crying imaginary fallacy

So you can't define them, but you know they are imaginary... 

Seems reasonable.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Jews already have strong cleanliness rules thanks to their religion/culture and is likely why they would have lower rates, but I haven't done the research onto if they actually do and frankly... I really just don't care if they do or don't, I would like to see Jews left alone just like I would like to see Cajuns and Texans left alone.

Ironically, if the UK's community is any indication, the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, the kind who would likely be following extra cleanliness procedures than the rest of the world, might have actually been affected MORE than most other groups.

Close proximity would be my guess, same issue here in the US and likely most of the world; UOJs tend to live in essentially segregated communities, in places turning just a few blocks into densely packed slums like you would think of in the early 1900s New York - just with a lot more law and order. 

Hotbed for disease; the inbreeding probably doesn't help either...

[The Architect Of Fate]

So you can't define them, but you know they are imaginary... 

Seems reasonable.

Oh I can define them just fine. I'm just not obligated to I think we already established this 

And yes your whining about fallacies is imaginary

[The Architect Of Fate]

"Easy to produce" in regards to mass manufacturing has a fairly, though not universal, unspoken implication - "Reduction in quality."

It means it's no longer produced by craftsmen but by casual laborers - you get increasingly less competent, easily replaceable employees to do the same amount of work in less time; even if they make more mistakes you have to throw out, they outproduce the loses and provide a net gain. 


Logical conclusion - batches containing unsafe amounts of mercury will be produced. 

This is not a problem assuming your government doesn't take billions of dollars in bribes (I'm sorry, "lobby dollars") from the pharmaceutical companies or any of the third-party distribution systems and can catch these cases before some greedy snob in a suit decides that pushing out *possibly* contaminated doses isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of millions of dollars.

This is not hypothetical; it happens fairly frequently as well as is why we prohibit certain seasonings and ingredients from being used restaurant and culinary institutions, and I truly don't believe I have to tell anyone how much money the medical industry pours into our government.

And now your concocting irrelevant conspiracy theories.....Gotcha

[Rev. Rye]

Yes, and what's your point, Ding-Dong? How does the fact that it's easy to produce something like Thimerosal impact what I have to say about its lowest lethal dose and the comparatively miniscule amount put into vaccines?

"Easy to produce" in regards to mass manufacturing has a fairly, though not universal, unspoken implication - "Reduction in quality."

It means it's no longer produced by craftsmen but by casual laborers - you get increasingly less competent, easily replaceable employees to do the same amount of work in less time; even if they make more mistakes you have to throw out, they outproduce the loses and provide a net gain. 


Logical conclusion - batches containing unsafe amounts of mercury will be produced. 

This is not a problem assuming your government doesn't take billions of dollars in bribes (I'm sorry, "lobby dollars") from the pharmaceutical companies or any of the third-party distribution systems and can catch these cases before some greedy snob in a suit decides that pushing out *possibly* contaminated doses isn't a big deal in the grand scheme of millions of dollars.

This is not hypothetical; it happens fairly frequently as well as is why we prohibit certain seasonings and ingredients from being used restaurant and culinary institutions, and I truly don't believe I have to tell anyone how much money the medical industry pours into our government.

And you think quality control can get so horrible that they can put preservatives in the vaccines in concentrations that would be hundreds of times higher than usual, do it so consistently that it can lead to a massive outbreak in a developmental disorder, and hush it up so effectively that there's still plausible deniability even as rates go up?

And, if we're taking into account actual events, manage to fuck up so badly that even when the supposed agent in this is removed (and, out of an abundance of caution, thimerosal hasn't been in any vaccines except some flu shots since 2001), rates of autism diagnoses still go up?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Also there is again zero evidence it's ever caused autism

[Rev. Rye]

Also there is again zero evidence it's ever caused autism

And, like I said, it's been out of vaccines (except for some flu vaccines) since 2001, and despite this supposed cause being taken out of the picture, autism diagnoses are still on the rise. Almost like thimerosal doesn't actually cause autism.

[Rev. Rye]

Ironically, if the UK's community is any indication, the Ultra-Orthodox Jews, the kind who would likely be following extra cleanliness procedures than the rest of the world, might have actually been affected MORE than most other groups.

Close proximity would be my guess, same issue here in the US and likely most of the world; UOJs tend to live in essentially segregated communities, in places turning just a few blocks into densely packed slums like you would think of in the early 1900s New York - just with a lot more law and order. 

Hotbed for disease; the inbreeding probably doesn't help either...

Which would probably point against them supposedly being less effected by COVID, despite what RFK said.