The Absurd GOP

[Fake Messiah]

Here is a clip to share with MAGA relatives over the holidays.

[Ferrocyanide]

There is no empirical data demonstrating allowing Trans People to use the washroom that corresponds to there gender puts women more at risk then before and the CIS people my misbehave is not a justification to take it out on Trans People who themselves face risks in bathrooms corresponding to their sex . This is weak fear based justification.

Honest question, do you *really* need a study for everything to know if it's true or not?

I can listen to women when they tell me they feel uncomfortable with a biological male is in the restroom with them.

I can use my mind and realise, "Yeah, if you allow any man who presents as a woman to enter into a bathroom, you have just provided a mechanism for sexual predators to enter into a bathroom without drawing attention and commit a crime." 

We have "segregated" bathrooms, generally intended for families to change baby diapers and for the disabled. Just use those.

Human traffickers (whom I hadn't given much thought of in the equation before now) and predators both would be licking their lips over that prospect. 

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Just to be clear, you are arguing that transgendered feelings are more important than women's feelings?

Couldn't a biological male dress up as a woman, put on a wig, high heels and just go into a women's bathroom?
No one would be able to tell if it was a man.

I suppose bathrooms can be protected with a special card. You pass the card and it confirms that you are a genuine woman.

It is still possible that hackers can make fake woman ID cards.

On the other hand, a male pedophile can enter the men's bathroom, take a boy and rape him. How are we going to solve this one?
Even if you make 1 men's bathroom and 1 boys bathroom, where do you draw the line?
There are cases where teen boys rape a younger boy.

I do think that the feelings of women are important. For example, at a certain university, the girls complained that they don't want to change cloths with a transgender. This is a case where they know each other. As the dean, I would have asked the transgender to use a private bathroom or some other room inside the school. I'm sure a solution exists.

However, the authorities of the school said "Too bad. You have to live with it."
I don't agree with that response.

For public bathrooms, let’s say at the mall, nobody knows the other people. I don’t think anyone would be bothered if a transwoman uses the women’s bathroom.

CONCLUSION:
I don't think that banning a transgender from using the women's bathroom will have any effect on the incidents of bathroom rape.
The rapists aren’t waiting for the trans law to pass. They are already wearing the wigs and going into your bathrooms for 100 y.

It is like arguing that we should ban guns so that the amount of gun violence goes down.
The criminals need guns. They are going to find ways to get one. They are coming to your house soon. They will kill you and take your gold watch. They have been doing this for 100 y.
If you pass a law to ban guns now, it isn’t going to change the mind of some criminal. He is coming to your house to rape you.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Couldn't a biological male dress up as a woman, put on a wig, high heels and just go into a women's bathroom?

Bingo.

Traditionally, no - while it wasn't "illegal," it was socially shamed unless done accidently.

Since society has decided it no longer wants to protect women, the government has to step in and play that role - much to the despise of everyone of us who would like to see the government reduced only to it's core purposes of national defense and commercial facilitating.

It's not meant to be our fathers as well, but such is life.

[Silver]

Still not seeing any data on how restrooms are dangerous areas for women.

In fact, women are more at risk of violence from a spouse or family member.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Still not seeing any data on how restrooms are dangerous areas for women.

In fact, women are more at risk of violence from a spouse or family member.

Exactly -- a woman is much more at risk at home, statistically.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Still not seeing any data on how restrooms are dangerous areas for women.

In fact, women are more at risk of violence from a spouse or family member.

Exactly -- a woman is much more at risk at home, statistically.

And a woman in the bathroom with a man who wants to harm her is at much more risk there than at home, statistically.

[Silver]

Men aren't using women's public bathrooms.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Still not seeing any data on how restrooms are dangerous areas for women.

You should probably go do some research on it then if you cant find it.

[TheWhiteMarten]

Men aren't using women's public bathrooms.

Biological men who identify as transgendered women use women's public bathrooms.

Ergo, men use women's public bathrooms.

[Silver]

Incorrect.