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The Absurd GOP
RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 8:37 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote:
(November 28, 2024 at 11:47 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Incorrect; the "Scream in public to get attention" ideology of insecurity meeting the logical reaction.

Put yourself in their shoes. If you were a transgender or if you were a homosexual, wouldn't you want to protect your rights, wouldn't you want to be respected?

Rights such as what?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
Quote:Hmm.

Appreciate the honest answers.

If accountability simply wasn't an option - regardless how far up the totem pole you go, the bosses don't see it as being offensive - I would guess you would quit the company at that point?
Nope they would have to fire me because I'm not letting it go and if I get fired I'll clear that publicity that this is a company that allows asshole behavior and hopefully it either pressures through public scrutiny or they can live with bad reputation (Again this is pie in the sky because incredibly unlikely it would get this far )



Quote:I also have to ask, how would you define racism offensive enough to go to a boss over? What would be a general rule of thumb for when it crosses the line and becomes an offense?
Again the fact you need to ask that is sus as hell.
"Change was inevitable"


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RE: The Absurd GOP
Quote:What, you realized attacking me for being white wasn't going to work so now you are going to try and attack me because my mom isn't from here?
He never attacked you for being white and missed the point of his  comment again 


Quote:Do I not meet your political purity test to be recognized as a good Staatsbürger, Mister?
A demand he never made
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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Absurd GOP
Quote:Rights such as what?
Dignity, Respect, Not being shat for being yourself openly, 

You can those are rights but no one really cares.
"Change was inevitable"


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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 8:44 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:
Quote:Hmm.

Appreciate the honest answers.

If accountability simply wasn't an option - regardless how far up the totem pole you go, the bosses don't see it as being offensive - I would guess you would quit the company at that point?
Nope they would have to fire me because I'm letting it go.

Respect, my apologies for assuming otherwise.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 8:48 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:
Quote:Rights such as what?
Dignity, Respect, Not being shat for being yourself openly, 

You can those are rights but no one really cares.

The only person who can take those away from you are yourself.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
Quote:The only person who can take those away from you are yourself.
Nope other people are perfectly capable of doing that through their words and actions and they do.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 2:35 am)The Architect Of Fate Wrote:
Quote:Your boss is not your father; it is not his job to do what every adult should be able to do at the most basic level; solve interpersonal problems *by themselves.*
A boss is an administrative figure who should make it clear asshole behavior has no place at work. 


Quote:You are an adult; your coworker is an adult - behave like it.
It's 100% adult to report asshole behavior at work  to people higher up so they can handle it 


Quote:You don't like what they said? Cool, ignore it.

You don't like what they said? report it because asshole behavior has no place at work nor should you have to put up with it 


Quote:They won't let you ignore it? Cool, they are fired.
Let's just skip that part and go straight to the part were the person is yeeted for asshole behavior 

It is part of the rules in corporate Canada that when there is conflict, abusive language, you shouldn't handle it by yourself.
You should report it to your boss/supervisor. The info will probably be submitted to HR, it probably goes into your file and they will probably talk to everyone who is involved.

There was a case where my mother worked. For some reason, a group of afghan women were picking on another afghan woman. She was crying a lot. I'm sure she hated to go to work. My mom was being friendly with her. I think it was the only friend the afghan woman had at that work location. Eventually, the afghan quit.

Since Canada is a multicultural place and since it brings people randomly from any country, for sure, there is conflict to be friction in the workplace.

There is going to be plenty of such cases.
Another example:
https://www.atheists.org/2022/03/houston-pledge-of-allegiance-lawsuit/?emci=5c678e82-70b0-ec11-997e-281878b83d8a&emdi=3852ccd7-75b0-ec11-997e-281878b83d8a&ceid=8326847

Quote:American Atheists Wins Settlement for Harassed Nonreligious Student
By American Atheists Legal
Tuesday, Mar 29, 2022

Houston, TX—Today, the civil rights organization American Atheists announced a successful settlement on behalf of a nonreligious student who was harassed, disciplined, and retaliated against for sitting out the Pledge of Allegiance.

The defendant, the student’s 12th grade sociology teacher, agreed to settle the case. As a result of that agreement, the Texas Association of School Boards, a risk pool funded by Texas school districts, has paid $90,000 to resolve the case before trial.

“Nonreligious students often face bullying or harassment for expressing their deeply held convictions,” said Nick Fish, president of American Atheists. “No one should have to endure the years of harassment, disrespect, and bullying our client faced. The fact that this happened in a public school and at the hands of staff who should know better is particularly appalling. After nearly 5 years of litigation, the defendant finally made the only smart decision and agreed to settle this case.”
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RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 9:06 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:
(Yesterday at 8:44 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Nope they would have to fire me because I'm letting it go.

Respect, my apologies for assuming otherwise.
Minor spell error 

I Meant to say 

Nope they would have to fire me because I'm not letting it go.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: The Absurd GOP
(Yesterday at 8:30 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: I also have to ask, how would you define racism offensive enough to go to a boss over? What would be a general rule of thumb for when it crosses the line and becomes an offense?

If you have to ask, I'd say a couple factors would be involved. The most important of which would be a sustained pattern of behaviour and bad intent. Ideally, unless the racism in question was particularly extreme (usually something on the order of "if the ADL has a hate symbols page of the thing in question" or "blatantly supporting violence against minorities"), I'd try to at least talk with the people in question and get them to at least stop. If they don't stop, then it goes to HR.
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