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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 5:40 pm
(November 30, 2024 at 8:41 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: (November 30, 2024 at 8:37 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: Put yourself in their shoes. If you were a transgender or if you were a homosexual, wouldn't you want to protect your rights, wouldn't you want to be respected?
Rights such as what?
Such as the right to get married, the right for your spouse's insurance to cover you, the right to adopt children, the right to change gender to the gender you should be and to use the bathroom associated with that gender.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 7:50 pm
(December 5, 2024 at 5:40 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: (November 30, 2024 at 8:41 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Rights such as what?
Such as the right to get married, the right for your spouse's insurance to cover you, the right to adopt children, the right to change gender to the gender you should be and to use the bathroom associated with that gender.
The first three have nothing to do with transgendered rights and at least the first two Trump has been in favor of since 1999-2000 - being in favor of traditional marriage but believing the LGB community should have access to civil unions.
What adult is having their right to body mutilation denied to them, and where is the right to use whatever bathroom you decide you want to use legally protected?
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 7:55 pm
^ Sharp as a bowlin' ball and back on ignore.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 8:11 pm
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Quote:The first three have nothing to do with transgendered rights
The LGBTQ community is just that taking rights from one is taking from all. Also Conservative totally take those three away too from the LGBTQ community
Quote:and at least the first two Trump has been in favor of since 1999-2000 - being in favor of traditional marriage but believing the LGB community should have access to civil unions.
Nope it's marriage or nothing civil unions are separate but equal by another name. Trump showed his true colours towards the gay community last time and the nutters in his administration will target gay marriage.
Quote:What adult is having their right to gender affirming care denied to them, and where is the right to use whatever bathroom you decide you want to use legally protected?
Tran people are having there right to gender affirming care denied to them and the right to use a bathroom that corresponds with their gender denied.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 8:12 pm
(December 5, 2024 at 7:55 pm)Nanny Wrote: ^ Sharp as a bowlin' ball and back on ignore. Yup not sharp at all
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 5, 2024 at 8:29 pm
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For the record, only one US state explicitly enshrines the right for trans people to use the restroom of their choice: Massachussets. And, guess what? Sectiom 4(b) of this law actually closes the supposed loophole the right (at least in theory) fears bad people will take advantage of it. Of course, most states, at least the ones not marked with some degree of red seem to accept it to a degree:
![[Image: 1024px-Map_of_current_Bathroom_Legislati...entity.png]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Map_of_current_Bathroom_Legislation_in_the_United_States_in_regard_to_Gender_and_Gender_Identity.png/1024px-Map_of_current_Bathroom_Legislation_in_the_United_States_in_regard_to_Gender_and_Gender_Identity.png)
As for gender-affirming care, which covers a lot more than just surgeries, here's another map. The ones in regular red ban it for minors (Bear in mind that, for the record, the youngest I've heard of anyone getting gender-identity-related bottom surgery WORLDWIDE is sixteen, and even that's slightly more common than hens' teeth, even among the small dataset that is trans kids). The ones in darker red, however, ban it for everyone (though they do grandfather in anyone who started before the law went into effect), and the pink ones are currently blocked from being enforced:
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December 5, 2024 at 10:24 pm
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Happy to live in Massachusetts with a trans child, for sure. Cost of living is bad, there's no housing, commutes are bad, people are generally rude and self interested. And the weather sucks. We get at bit of fridge, bit of oven, with mud and allergens between. But yes, still happy
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 6, 2024 at 12:38 am
Quote:The LGBTQ community is just that taking rights from one is taking from all. Also Conservative totally take those three away too from the LGBTQ community
A transgendered individual is not inherently attracted to individuals of the opposite sex, your ignorance is frankly kinda offensive.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 6, 2024 at 12:54 am
(December 6, 2024 at 12:38 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Quote:The LGBTQ community is just that taking rights from one is taking from all. Also Conservative totally take those three away too from the LGBTQ community
A transgendered individual is not inherently attracted to individuals of the opposite sex, your ignorance is frankly kinda offensive.
Look at you, speaking up for the transgendered even though you're not. It's like guero me speaking up for immigrants from Mexico.
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RE: The Absurd GOP
December 6, 2024 at 1:10 am
House Republicans just blocked the release of the Matt Gaetz ethics report, which looked into criminal allegations including sex with a minor.
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