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Current time: March 28, 2024, 9:49 am

Poll: Cut?
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Medicare
16.67%
3 16.67%
Defense
72.22%
13 72.22%
Social Security
11.11%
2 11.11%
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Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
#31
RE: Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
(April 4, 2011 at 9:18 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote:
(April 4, 2011 at 7:40 pm)orogenicman Wrote:
Quote:Almost all of it could be better spent. That doesn't mean we shouldn't spend a great deal on defense (and especially offense).

How much is enough? How many nukes do we need to ensure our safety? From my perspective, even one is one too many. How many tens of millions do we need to spend on each aircraft while our foot soldeirs don't have enough basic equipment? Now, imagine spending those 100s of billions of dollars on efforts to bring peace. Would that not also make us more safe?

If you don't have any nukes, you are defenseless in a world that has them. We are kept in check by each of us not wanting to be annihilated. The destruction is mutually assured. Why the USA didn't rip every other nation into shreds when it finally developed nukes is beyond me. We missed our window of advantage. Maybe there was a good reason for it though. As for how many is enough: I do not know, but i don't see how you can have enough tactical nukes until you have too many to use.

As for aircraft, it depends on how good it is and what kind of war you are fighting. Are you suggesting that the infantry does not have basic equipment?

Peace is only achievable through death. No, it would not make you more safe to disarm yourself. Switzerland may be 'neutral', but it only remains so because it has an army and nobody wants their little chunk of land anyway.

Wow, that just takes my breath away. Confusedhock:
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#32
RE: Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
Quote:Maybe there was a good reason for it though.


Um...yeah. We would have poisoned ourselves in the process.

That's bad for business you know.
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#33
RE: Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
(April 7, 2011 at 12:55 am)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Maybe there was a good reason for it though.


Um...yeah. We would have poisoned ourselves in the process.

That's bad for business you know.

Mmmm... sort of. I'd rather poison myself a little and annihilate all of my enemies than run at full capacity against enemies that are also at full capacity.

Orogenicman Wrote:Wow, that just takes my breath away. Shock

Does it also tickle the hair on your left ankle? Smile
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#34
RE: Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
Radiation poisoning is more than "a little."
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#35
RE: Medicare, Defense or Social Security?
I will tell you what they will do. They will gut EVERYTHING except for the platinum benefits and pay package of the Senate and Defense spending.

In fact. Anything they take out of Social security, they will raise and match in defense. Then they will say "we are hemoraghing again, wee need to cut SS by another 20%" and then they take that money and put it into defense. Ad infinitum.
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