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China and Ukraine
#41
RE: China and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(October 11, 2022 at 8:19 am)Interaktive Wrote: Beijing is a big China
Moscow is a small China

I don't understand this one either. 

China is China. It is unique. Its history is amazing. Its people are amazing.

Nearly all of what we hear about China in the West is just propaganda. When I went there it was obvious that the constant stream of negatives we hear are designed to mask fantastic potential. 

For example, did you know China has a great beer culture? Every city you go to has its own local brews, and they're of a high quality with a lot of variation. How many people in the West know about this? It's not an important thing, but it's something very noticeable about the country, that you'd never hear about if you didn't go and travel around. 

The best wine I ever had was Chinese. The best, most enormous bookstore I ever visited was in China. The best questions I ever got after my academic presentations were asked in English, by undergraduate students, in China. 

Take the Chinese bullet train to Beijing, and then fly out of the new Beijing airport to JFK or O'Hare and you'll see which country is doing well. 

If the US didn't keep up the propaganda war Americans would know that actual progress is possible, because China is doing it.

I’m sure the Uyghurs are thrilled about the wide variety of craft beers in China. You know, when they’re  not busy riding bullet trains to the huge book stores in their FUCKING INTERNMENT CAMPS.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#42
RE: China and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: Nearly all of what we hear about China in the West is just propaganda
What (negative) propaganda did i have been exposed to?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: When I went there it was obvious that the constant stream of negatives we hear are designed to mask fantastic potential. 
What constant stream of negatives am i constantly exposed to?
What fantastic potential of China am i not aware of?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: For example, did you know China has a great beer culture? Every city you go to has its own local brews, and they're of a high quality with a lot of variation. How many people in the West know about this? It's not an important thing, but it's something very noticeable about the country, that you'd never hear about if you didn't go and travel around.
When did i, or anyone else, claim that China has no culture?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: Take the Chinese bullet train to Beijing, and then fly out of the new Beijing airport to JFK or O'Hare and you'll see which country is doing well. 

If the US didn't keep up the propaganda war Americans would know that actual progress is possible, because China is doing it.
Did you talk to chinese in the train about the current political situation? Criticism of the regime maybe? How did people respond?
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#43
RE: China and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 2:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: I don't understand this one either. 

China is China. It is unique. Its history is amazing. Its people are amazing.

Nearly all of what we hear about China in the West is just propaganda. When I went there it was obvious that the constant stream of negatives we hear are designed to mask fantastic potential. 

For example, did you know China has a great beer culture? Every city you go to has its own local brews, and they're of a high quality with a lot of variation. How many people in the West know about this? It's not an important thing, but it's something very noticeable about the country, that you'd never hear about if you didn't go and travel around. 

The best wine I ever had was Chinese. The best, most enormous bookstore I ever visited was in China. The best questions I ever got after my academic presentations were asked in English, by undergraduate students, in China. 

Take the Chinese bullet train to Beijing, and then fly out of the new Beijing airport to JFK or O'Hare and you'll see which country is doing well. 

If the US didn't keep up the propaganda war Americans would know that actual progress is possible, because China is doing it.

I’m sure the Uyghurs are thrilled about the wide variety of craft beers in China. You know, when they’re  not busy riding bullet trains to the huge book stores in their FUCKING INTERNMENT CAMPS.

Boru
Oh, he likely denies that's happening as most Tankies do or he will employ whataboutism about America's immigrant camps or some such nonsense. You can't argue with a Tankie "America Bad" is not a position argued to it's an axiom started from.
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#44
RE: China and Ukraine
(October 11, 2022 at 3:24 pm)Deesse23 Wrote:
(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: Nearly all of what we hear about China in the West is just propaganda
What (negative) propaganda did i have been exposed to?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: When I went there it was obvious that the constant stream of negatives we hear are designed to mask fantastic potential. 
What constant stream of negatives am i constantly exposed to?
What fantastic potential of China am i not aware of?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: For example, did you know China has a great beer culture? Every city you go to has its own local brews, and they're of a high quality with a lot of variation. How many people in the West know about this? It's not an important thing, but it's something very noticeable about the country, that you'd never hear about if you didn't go and travel around.
When did i, or anyone else, claim that China has no culture?

(October 11, 2022 at 8:35 am)Belacqua Wrote: Take the Chinese bullet train to Beijing, and then fly out of the new Beijing airport to JFK or O'Hare and you'll see which country is doing well. 

If the US didn't keep up the propaganda war Americans would know that actual progress is possible, because China is doing it.
Did you talk to chinese in the train about the current political situation? Criticism of the regime maybe? How did people respond?
China could be a great nation. But not as it is now.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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