Free will and the necessary evil

[HankMoody316]

What strange and spooky stuff did you realize?

To answer your question, I must share with you some relevant backstory about myself:

1. I am a Mormon musician and I believe all music can be converted to an MP3 file which is nothing more than a sequence of 1's and 0's but I'm not allowed to link to the wikipedia article called "Hex Editor" due to the 30/30 rule. 
   
2. For the same reason, I'm not allowed to link to Champernowne constant either, but there's nothing (inherently) stopping me from copy/pasting the opening paragraph...
   
3. In mathematics, the Champernowne constant C10 is a transcendental real constant whose decimal expansion has important properties. It is named after economist and mathematician D. G. Champernowne, who published it as an undergraduate in 1933.
   

Furthermore, the iceberg theory or theory of omission is a writing technique coined by American writer Ernest Hemingway. As a young journalist, Hemingway had to focus his newspaper reports on immediate events, with very little context or interpretation. When he became a writer of short stories, he retained this minimalistic style, focusing on surface elements without explicitly discussing underlying themes. Hemingway believed the deeper meaning of a story should not be evident on the surface, but should shine through implicitly.

I am a writer, artist, and musician. The "less" I say, the "more" I say. In other words, all music has already been created already. Once the Champernowne constant was formally described and explained, the world we know it is no longer the same. I have realized more than 70 strange and spooky things. The most relevant one being (since we're discussing music) is that all music has already been created. Its MP3 sequence already exists within the decimal expansion of the Champernowne  constant. 

😮‍💨

Pretty mind-blowing stuff, wouldn't you agree? 

(even if you disagree, please make me feel welcome by at least acknowledging my efforts)

[The Grand Nudger]

I bet if you took just the letters on this board alone, even just in my 62k or so posts...you could realize such circumstances and then say..with as much creative license as you employ above, that we've already written all of english lit that ever will be. I'll wait for the letter certifying my hugo win to arrive any day now.

As far as feeling welcome, well, you've got an interesting bar for strange and spooky. That's worth something, we usually get ghost stories and schizophrenic episodes.

[HankMoody316]

As far as feeling welcome, well, you've got an interesting bar for strange and spooky.  That's worth something, we usually get ghost stories and schizophrenic episodes.

I'm a world-class artist/writer, if you want me to "get ghosty" or "get schizophrenicy", then be my guest... 👻

(i.e. respond to this comment in the manner in which one might expect)

[Belacqua]

To answer your question, I must share with you some relevant backstory about myself:

1. I am a Mormon musician and I believe all music can be converted to an MP3 file which is nothing more than a sequence of 1's and 0's but I'm not allowed to link to the wikipedia article called "Hex Editor" due to the 30/30 rule. 
   
2. For the same reason, I'm not allowed to link to Champernowne constant either, but there's nothing (inherently) stopping me from copy/pasting the opening paragraph...
   
3. In mathematics, the Champernowne constant C10 is a transcendental real constant whose decimal expansion has important properties. It is named after economist and mathematician D. G. Champernowne, who published it as an undergraduate in 1933.
   

Here's the Wikipedia page about Hex Editor:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_editor

And this is about the constant thingy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champernowne_constant

I confess I don't see yet how these relate to the "strange and spooky." (But then I know very little about math or computers.) I'm curious as to how these relate to the topic at hand. Do they affect how you make your music in any way? Do they create strangeness? (I'm a big fan of strangeness.)

Furthermore, the iceberg theory or theory of omission is a writing technique coined by American writer Ernest Hemingway. As a young journalist, Hemingway had to focus his newspaper reports on immediate events, with very little context or interpretation. When he became a writer of short stories, he retained this minimalistic style, focusing on surface elements without explicitly discussing underlying themes. Hemingway believed the deeper meaning of a story should not be evident on the surface, but should shine through implicitly.

I am a writer, artist, and musician. The "less" I say, the "more" I say. In other words, all music has already been created already. Once the Champernowne constant was formally described and explained, the world we know it is no longer the same. I have realized more than 70 strange and spooky things. The most relevant one being (since we're discussing music) is that all music has already been created. Its MP3 sequence already exists within the decimal expansion of the Champernowne  constant. 

Does the Champernowne thing posit that all music has been created in potential, or actually? That is, mathematically we could posit that all melodies pre-exist, like all digits of pi, but this doesn't mean that all melodies have been heard by humans, or ever could be. There is still value in selecting from the infinite (?) potential melodies and then performing them. And wouldn't performance quality make a lot of difference? Like, a tune that has been plucked from the numerical sequence by a computer could vary a lot depending on who's playing it. Glenn Gould's Bach is worth paying money for, while mine isn't. 

As for the iceberg idea, I hadn't heard Hemingway's term for this, but I think it makes a lot of sense. Classic literature lives on simply because it is inexhaustible, I think. Paintings, music -- if it's good there's always going to be more than one gets at first glance. 

In fact I'm a big fan of re-reading, because I think that when you read Proust or Stendhal at 16 you're going to be getting very different messages than you get at 30 or 60. And in fact the differences in what we perceive tell us a lot about ourselves. 

I might hold back from saying that there is one and only one "deep meaning" to any given story. There is a tendency these days to analyze things as if any text is a daVinci Code, which, once decoded, reveals an intentionally hidden secret. I don't think the great texts work this way. In fact modern readings of, say, Plato may yield interpretations that the writer himself could not have imagined, but are still valuable.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

As far as feeling welcome, well, you've got an interesting bar for strange and spooky.  That's worth something, we usually get ghost stories and schizophrenic episodes.

I'm a world-class artist/writer, if you want me to "get ghosty" or "get schizophrenicy", then be my guest... 👻

(i.e. respond to this comment in the manner in which one might expect)

(Bold mine)

Another undiscovered genius, eh? *indulgent chuckle*

Boru

[Jehanne]

Free will is not a scientific concept. There can only be evidence of what we did choose, never of counterfactual outcomes. Physical laws proceed deterministically, with occasional stochastic interruptions due to quantum effects. In either case, human will, whatever that is, can have no influence. (sic my emphasis added)

I will copy/paste what 2 mathematician told me in response to my claims about music, math, and reality. Here was my claim about music and math: "Thanks, this allows me to realize some strange, spooky stuff about reality. It's amazing the power of math and how reality seems to be easier to understand once you internalize some advanced math concepts, such as set theory or sequences."

Mathematician "A" responded: "No, most of the physical world can be modeled by mathematics. ¶ The idea that people are amazed that music can be modeled by Math is confusing to me. I wouldn’t say that music is Math. Yes, like most of the physical world it follows mathematical patterns."

Mathematician "B" responded: "Just be careful to realize that math does not always correspond with physical reality. As in, just because you can define a mathematical concept doesn't mean that the concept exists in the real world or implies anything at all about the real world by itself.

The above two statements are complementary; what's your point?

[Angrboda]

What strange and spooky stuff did you realize?

To answer your question, I must share with you some relevant backstory about myself:

1. I am a Mormon musician and I believe all music can be converted to an MP3 file which is nothing more than a sequence of 1's and 0's but I'm not allowed to link to the wikipedia article called "Hex Editor" due to the 30/30 rule. 
   
2. For the same reason, I'm not allowed to link to Champernowne constant either, but there's nothing (inherently) stopping me from copy/pasting the opening paragraph...
   
3. In mathematics, the Champernowne constant C10 is a transcendental real constant whose decimal expansion has important properties. It is named after economist and mathematician D. G. Champernowne, who published it as an undergraduate in 1933.
   

Furthermore, the iceberg theory or theory of omission is a writing technique coined by American writer Ernest Hemingway. As a young journalist, Hemingway had to focus his newspaper reports on immediate events, with very little context or interpretation. When he became a writer of short stories, he retained this minimalistic style, focusing on surface elements without explicitly discussing underlying themes. Hemingway believed the deeper meaning of a story should not be evident on the surface, but should shine through implicitly.

I am a writer, artist, and musician. The "less" I say, the "more" I say. In other words, all music has already been created already. Once the Champernowne constant was formally described and explained, the world we know it is no longer the same. I have realized more than 70 strange and spooky things. The most relevant one being (since we're discussing music) is that all music has already been created. Its MP3 sequence already exists within the decimal expansion of the Champernowne  constant. 

😮‍💨

Pretty mind-blowing stuff, wouldn't you agree? 

(even if you disagree, please make me feel welcome by at least acknowledging my efforts)

It's not clear that all past musical sequences are contained within the Champernowne constant. As Wittgenstein observed, there being an infinite amount of time doesn't mean that everything possible will happen. The order within the Campernowne number may actually ensure that some sequences do not occur. It would probably be too much for my little brain, but I'd like to see where a competent mathematician has proven what you claim. It seems it would fall under Ramsey theory, but more than that I know not.

[Ranjr]

If you convert all music to MP3, you'll get no flac from me.

[arewethereyet]

As far as feeling welcome, well, you've got an interesting bar for strange and spooky.  That's worth something, we usually get ghost stories and schizophrenic episodes.

I'm a world-class artist/writer, if you want me to "get ghosty" or "get schizophrenicy", then be my guest... 👻

(i.e. respond to this comment in the manner in which one might expect)

Should I be in awe?

Convince me that you are world-class anything, other than an egotistical ass.

[purplepurpose]

God doesnt explain himself. He Just orders. Like demand to love Him passionately, when mf is willing to torture people for years and years.