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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 29, 2022 at 9:31 pm
(November 29, 2022 at 8:58 pm)LinuxGal Wrote: (November 29, 2022 at 12:18 pm)tackattack Wrote: I don't see a lot of references to God hating people in the OT, care to point me in that direction? I mean a lot of animals and acts were detestable which is really intense dislike. I do grant that psalms does make a lot of assumptions on God's behalf toward that.
Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
Dragons? Cool.
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 5:30 am
Why doesn't god love his enemies? Silly question. Only a simping cuck loves his enemies, and god is Gigachad.
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 5:42 am
It has yet to be adequately explained (from a theistic perspective) how an omni-everything Being could even have enemies without bursting into a bubble of self contradiction.
From a non-theistic view, the explanation is dead simple: Gods have the same enemies that their creators have.
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 7:00 am
(November 29, 2022 at 12:18 pm)tackattack Wrote: OT - “You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord,”
I don't see a lot of references to God hating people in the OT, care to point me in that direction? I mean a lot of animals and acts were detestable which is really intense dislike. I do grant that psalms does make a lot of assumptions on God's behalf toward that.
Just look in the front of the good book
Gen 6:6
6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his
heart was deeply troubled.
Then it killed everything
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 10:52 am
Malachi does deliver a prophetic message contrasting the chosen Jacob with the unchosen Esau to the people of Edom. Looking back through Genesis 25-30ish there doesn't seem to be much of God hating Esau, just Malachi claiming God did because it seems like hate to him as well. You can kill without hate, punish without hate and regret without hate. I'm still not buying God of the OT hated anyone, not to say he wasn't ordering killings, jealous or vengeful.
As to God logically having enemies.. I would say by the definition (one who is actively opposed or hostile to another) I don't see why God couldn't have enemies if he allows us to choose to oppose Him.
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 11:36 am
We call people who select people to kill without hate psychopaths.
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RE: Why doesn't God love his enemies?
November 30, 2022 at 12:17 pm
(November 30, 2022 at 10:52 am)tackattack Wrote: You can kill without hate, punish without hate and regret without hate. I'm still not buying God of the OT hated anyone, not to say he wasn't ordering killings, jealous or vengeful.
If you think the bad actions of the God of the OT were deserved punishments by a loving but stern parent that does not mean they were not evil actions. It just means you are the kind of person who thinks violence is an acceptable form of parental discipline.
Like an angry, impulsive, unreasonable, and unimaginative father or husband who repeatedly beats his kids or his wife for the slightest appearance of wrongdoing, God’s hateful "punishments" were excessive and malevolent.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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