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Why Trump will win in 2024.
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  (December 11, 2022 at 9:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: For all the worries expressed here, I think between Trump burnout, the gaffes he keeps making, legal matters, and age, he's going to get beaten pretty badly by DeSantis -- who worries me much more. If he was an honest Republican, you'd be absolutely correct, but, as I stated in my OP; if he doesn't get the nomination, he will run as a third-party candidate (which he did before in 2000) and he will sink the DeSantis & Whoever ticket. 
I doubt he would be able to sink DeSantis if he ran as an independent. I mean he would try it. But it would not work.
"Change was inevitable"
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December 11, 2022 at 2:10 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2022 at 2:10 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
If Trump runs as a third party candidate, I’m not sure why it would ‘sink’ DeSantis. You’d likely wind up with at least three candidates: Trump, DeSantis, and Biden (or a Democrat To Be Named Later). This would be extremely likely to sail the Democrat into the White House, as the hardcore Trumpers would vote for Trump, the Trumpism-But-Not Trump Republicans would come out for DeSantis, and the Democrats, moderate Republicans (fed up with Trump AND Trumpism) and independents would either break heavily for whoever the Democrats nominate or stay home.
Essentially Trump and DeSantis would split the Republican vote and the Democrat would clean up. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
The problem is that the party bosses can't risk crossing Trump's base for their own interests, so DeSantis will be working against a strong headwind.
![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg?rlkey=x1nmxbwrp...pouidnfvtl]](https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/scl/fi/a6a72vica8gsyddmkhtxp/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg?rlkey=x1nmxbwrpk9dzrupouidnfvtl) (December 11, 2022 at 3:12 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The problem is that the party bosses can't risk crossing Trump's base for their own interests, so DeSantis will be working against a strong headwind. A year ago, I would have agreed. But Trump’s coattails are not what they used to be, and will be even less so in two years. Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
(December 11, 2022 at 2:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If Trump runs as a third party candidate, I’m not sure why it would ‘sink’ DeSantis. You’d likely wind up with at least three candidates: Trump, DeSantis, and Biden (or a Democrat To Be Named Later). This would be extremely likely to sail the Democrat into the White House, as the hardcore Trumpers would vote for Trump, the Trumpism-But-Not Trump Republicans would come out for DeSantis, and the Democrats, moderate Republicans (fed up with Trump AND Trumpism) and independents would either break heavily for whoever the Democrats nominate or stay home. Yes, yes, yes! (December 11, 2022 at 3:12 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The problem is that the party bosses can't risk crossing Trump's base for their own interests, so DeSantis will be working against a strong headwind.Even Trumps base is slowly shifting away as Republicans realize as much as they "like him" he has too much baggage and controversy that will serve as a distraction from a successful campaign.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM (December 11, 2022 at 3:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Trump is too much of a liability now and most Republicans understand that.(December 11, 2022 at 3:12 pm)Angrboda Wrote: The problem is that the party bosses can't risk crossing Trump's base for their own interests, so DeSantis will be working against a strong headwind.
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM (December 11, 2022 at 1:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(December 11, 2022 at 9:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: For all the worries expressed here, I think between Trump burnout, the gaffes he keeps making, legal matters, and age, he's going to get beaten pretty badly by DeSantis -- who worries me much more. Let us cross our fingers. |
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