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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 12:17 am
Neocons (like huckabee) are the reason I'm moving to Canada.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 11:01 am
I'm not a Republican, but your entire thread title is a complete strawman.
Huckabee said: "I almost wish that there would be..."
How on earth do you get from someone using a popular turn of phrase to him actually wanting to go about doing it?
It's the equivalent of Dawkins saying "Some days I really want to tie creationists up and force them to look at all the evidence at gun point."
It's a turn of phrase; it doesn't literally mean he wants to go and do it.
...and before anyone starts responding to me: yes, I know Huckabee is a fruit loop, I don't like him either, but try to be civil and actually present what he said as what he said, not some twisted nonsense.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 12:15 pm
Quote:How on earth do you get from someone using a popular turn of phrase to him actually wanting to go about doing it?
Because we live here and are exposed to these twats every day, Adrian. They call Obama a "socialist" when what they really want to call him is "nigger."
You can't be too literal with an asshole like Huckabee.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm
(This post was last modified: April 9, 2011 at 1:52 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(April 9, 2011 at 11:01 am)Tiberius Wrote: I'm not a Republican, but your entire thread title is a complete strawman.
Huckabee said: "I almost wish that there would be..."
How on earth do you get from someone using a popular turn of phrase to him actually wanting to go about doing it?
It's the equivalent of Dawkins saying "Some days I really want to tie creationists up and force them to look at all the evidence at gun point."
It's a turn of phrase; it doesn't literally mean he wants to go and do it.
...and before anyone starts responding to me: yes, I know Huckabee is a fruit loop, I don't like him either, but try to be civil and actually present what he said as what he said, not some twisted nonsense.
Great point Adrian. I am completely wrong about him. Maybe I should vote for him for president so he can put his neo-con libertarian views in to practice. Surely he would never abuse his power of president. richard Dawkins must be trying to run for president of US as well, huh? [/sarcasm]
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 4:24 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 1:50 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Great point Adrian. I am completely wrong about him. Maybe I should vote for him for president so he can put his neo-con libertarian views in to practice. Surely he would never abuse his power of president. richard Dawkins must be trying to run for president of US as well, huh? [/sarcasm] 1) I never said you were completely wrong about him; my beef was with you taking something he said literally when it was clearly said as a turn of phrase.
2) He is not a libertarian.
3) I don't appreciate the sarcasm; I was trying to make a valid point about your attitude. When discussing other people's opinions, or things that they say, it is usually civil to actually attack what they say, and not a strawman of what they say. I've noticed you don't care for this much in other threads though, so maybe I shouldn't even bother in future.
Seriously though, watch the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1O1dvN8lag
He laughs a bit as he says it; the audience laugh, and they applaud the statement. They understand perfectly well what he meant by it; I'm just astounded that so many people here think he was actually being serious.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm
I never took him seriously, Adrian. It's just fun to be angry at any Republican. That's it, really. They suck.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 4:39 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm)SpatiumTempusque Wrote: I never took him seriously, Adrian. It's just fun to be angry at any Republican. That's it, really. They suck. Right, but instead of taking his words out of context to mean something he evidently didn't convey, why not be angry at the stuff he does, or the things he actually supports?
I mean, Obama said in his election campaign that he wanted to visit 57 states of America, and that he had Muslim beliefs. Both of which were accidental slip ups, and perfectly understandable when you look at how much stress he was under. Did it stop the other side from using them out of context? No.
My point? If you want to be better than them, don't do the same thing when some Republican slips up or says something that wasn't meant to be taken literally.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 4:46 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:24 pm)Tiberius Wrote: 3) I don't appreciate the sarcasm; I was trying to make a valid point about your attitude. When discussing other people's opinions, or things that they say, it is usually civil to actually attack what they say, and not a strawman of what they say. I've noticed you don't care for this much in other threads though, so maybe I shouldn't even bother in future. Come on Adrian. I was just being tongue in cheek like ol'economically libertarian Mike Huckabee. when I said I would vote for him, it didnt mean I would vote for him.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 4:56 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (April 9, 2011 at 4:31 pm)SpatiumTempusque Wrote: I never took him seriously, Adrian. It's just fun to be angry at any Republican. That's it, really. They suck. Right, but instead of taking his words out of context to mean something he evidently didn't convey, why not be angry at the stuff he does, or the things he actually supports?
I mean, Obama said in his election campaign that he wanted to visit 57 states of America, and that he had Muslim beliefs. Both of which were accidental slip ups, and perfectly understandable when you look at how much stress he was under. Did it stop the other side from using them out of context? No.
My point? If you want to be better than them, don't do the same thing when some Republican slips up or says something that wasn't meant to be taken literally.
You're right. I'm sorry. Don't be mad.
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RE: Mike Huckabee Says He Wants Americans To Be Indoctrinated At Gunpoint
April 9, 2011 at 5:20 pm
(April 9, 2011 at 4:56 pm)SpatiumTempusque Wrote: You're right. I'm sorry. Don't be mad. ![Begging Begging](https://atheistforums.org/images/smilies/begging.gif)
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