Trump and Russia

[The Architect Of Fate]

So this thread is just going to be Bel raving unhinged nonsense and linking to the words of other quacks....

[Belacqua]

Even if there was no connection between Trump and Russia, it doesn't negate Russia's malevolence.

The point, of course, is that a great deal of the supposed Russian malevolence reported in the US media was fiction.

Because people have been trained to expect nothing but malevolence from Russia it disposes them to believe fiction.

[Belacqua]

So this thread is just going to be Bel raving unhinged nonsense and linking to the words of other quacks....

I didn't start the thread. You can type whatever you want.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Whether you started it or not is irrelevant the fact you use it as a soapbox for your tripe is.

[Fake Messiah]

Russia pretty much lost the war in Ukraine. Their only hope now is trolls and useful idiots to maybe help to elect their asset, Donald Trump, who never stops with his shameless demonstrations of allegiance to them. Like a few days ago

Donald Trump Says He Trusts Putin More Than U.S. Intelligence 'Lowlifes'

In a post on Truth Social, the former president referenced comments he gave after meeting with Putin in Helsinki, Finland, in 2018 when he said that he didn't "see any reason" why Russia would have meddled in the 2016 election, despite what the FBI stated.

Trump once again suggested he trusts Putin over U.S. intelligence while sharing an a article about former FBI official Charles McGonigal, a leading figure in the FBI's investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia ahead of the 2016 election.

McGonigal was recently arrested on suspicion of a number of offenses, including working with a sanctioned Russian oligarch.

Trump has repeatedly been criticized for siding with Putin both as president and since he left the White House.

In 2018 following his defense of the Russian president in Helsinki, then Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer said that "in the entire history of our country, Americans have never seen a president of the United States support an American adversary" in the way Trump has Putin.

Trump was also condemned, including by members of his own party, for comments he made about Putin ahead of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Speaking on the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show in February 2022, Trump described Putin's tactic of recognizing two self-proclaimed republics in eastern Ukraine and sending Russian troops to the regions under the guise of "peacekeeping operations" as "genius" and "very savvy."

Trump doubled down on his praise of the Russian president, telling a crowd at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida that Putin was "pretty smart" as he had "taken over a country for $2 worth of sanctions" just as the invasion of Ukraine was being carried out.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-trusts-pu...fe-1777537

[Deesse23]

People have been propagandized to hate Russia for generations. Here is a case where this hatred was used in the US for partisan purposes.

My dad grew up in Soviet Russia, under Stalin (My extended Family was living in Soviet Russia until 1990). He worked for the US army after going to Germany. He hates americans, tinks they are all stupid. To this day my dad fancies all things russian and i pay for concert tickets n stuff.

I dont hate Russia, but i pity the Russians who have had to live for generations under incompetent, authoritarian and utterly corrupt regimes. These people deserve better. I am working with several russians in office. Once i fell in love with a russian gal even.

But what would you know about all these things, or why would a prick as self absorbed as you even care, sitting up there in your ivory tower lying your pathetic little ass off for pathetic self gratification.

Go.fuck.yourself.with.a.cactus

[The Grand Nudger]

Trump doubled down on his praise of the Russian president, telling a crowd at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida that Putin was "pretty smart" as he had "taken over a country for $2 worth of sanctions" just as the invasion of Ukraine was being carried out.

That brilliant transactional mind at work.  Like in a real estate deal..where the man who walks off with the biggest bag of cash is the winner..and everyone else was a mark or a sucker.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Even if there was no connection between Trump and Russia, it doesn't negate Russia's malevolence.

True. Nor does it negate the damage of an unapologeticly partisan and corrupt media. Haven't heard much from Code Pink lately and the anti-war bumper stickers are starting to fade and peel. And unlike the miguided and costly Iraqi war, escalation to nuclear conflict is a very real possibility.

[The Grand Nudger]

There was never any threat of escalation to nuclear war in iraq. I don't think there is here, either...but if so, seems like something you'd have to take up with the man rattling the sabre. Probably would be nice to settle the question of whether we're going to put up with that argument. If a person or a government can simply threaten to kill more or other people, if anyone does anything to prevent them from killing the first group of people. Less dramatically, whether this hostage taking model also works in domestic politics.

I don't think that's workable, what do you think?

[Fireball]

So this thread is just going to be Bel raving unhinged nonsense and linking to the words of other quacks....

I didn't start the thread. You can type whatever you want.

Bold mine. That's one short memory you have there.