Women's Rights

[Huggy Bear]

Female refers to sex...

Yes, and "woman" refers to gender, which isn't necessarily the same thing as "sex."

Which means you contracted yourself when you used the word 'female' to define woman.

You guys literally can't define the word woman, yet have the audacity to tell me the dictionary definition is no longer valid.

We basically went from a concrete definition  to utter confusion, that is to say Y'ALL are confused.

[arewethereyet]

Yes, and "woman" refers to gender, which isn't necessarily the same thing as "sex."

Which means you contracted yourself when you used the word 'female' to define woman.

You guys literally can't define the word woman, yet have the audacity to tell me the dictionary definition is no longer valid.

We basically went from a concrete definition  to utter confusion, that is to say Y'ALL are confused.

You have defined woman as a person who menstruates, as a person with a uterus, a person who can bear children, etc. etc. etc.

We've established that a menopausal woman is no less a woman.  A woman who doesn't have a uterus is still a woman.  A woman who can't get pregnant is still a woman.

Watch where you point the confusion finger.

Obviously, the definition is not either this or that...there are variables...or exceptions if you prefer.

[Rev. Rye]

Not really: I used the phrase "presents themselves as female." Doesn't necessarily mean you have to be biologically female.

And, frankly, living with the ambiguity of a particular word's definition is better than living and dying by an incomplete definition, you featherless biped.

[arewethereyet]

- note to self - work 'featherless biped' into future conversation.

[Rev. Rye]

Worth noting, while the veracity of the story about Diogenes and Plato isn't clear, Plato actually did define man as a featherless biped in the dialogue "Statesman."

[The Architect Of Fate]

Which means you contracted yourself when you used the word 'female' to define woman.

No he didn't 

You guys literally can't define the word woman, yet have the audacity to tell me the dictionary definition is no longer valid.

We already freaking did. It's a self-identifier and yes we have the audacity to call your definition total shit. 

We basically went from a concrete definition  to utter confusion, that is to say Y'ALL are confused.

Nope, we went from your shit definition that can't even handle exceptions to a real self-identifier that covers it all. You are the only one here that's confused huggy 

[The Architect Of Fate]

Not really: I used the phrase "presents themselves as female." Doesn't necessarily mean you have to be biologically female.

And, frankly, living with the ambiguity of a particular word's definition is better than living and dying by an incomplete definition, you featherless biped.

I don't think women being a self-identifier isn't  ambiguous it's simply open-ended unlike Huggy's which fumbles at the first hurdle.

[The Architect Of Fate]

You have defined woman as a person who menstruates, as a person with a uterus, a person who can bear children, etc. etc. etc.

We've established that a menopausal woman is no less a woman.  A woman who doesn't have a uterus is still a woman.  A woman who can't get pregnant is still a woman.

Watch where you point the confusion finger.

Obviously, the definition is not either this or that...there are variables...or exceptions if you prefer.

Of which an open-ended self-identifier accounts for and Huggy's crap definition can't .

[Ravenshire]

So, @Lek starts a misogyny thread, then quits when he can't get anyone to "see his side of it." Then Neo makes some lame, bigoted comments and Smuggy tries to spin and twist fucking everything to match his misogynistic, homophobic story line. Does that pretty much sum up this train-wreck of a thread?

[The Architect Of Fate]

Just saying, Sung, the optics would probably have been better if you said something  "Well, you bitch and whine like [Insert a particularly cantankerous woman you've known]" instead of saying "you bitch and whine just like a woman."

Fair enough