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The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
RE: The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
(August 13, 2023 at 8:39 am)LinuxGal Wrote:
(August 13, 2023 at 8:03 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: All of this back and forth, but neither of you have been talking about the universe being contingent, you've been arguing over whether it's contents were contingent.  A necessary universe might be filled with contingent contents.  Things that could be different, which doesn't actually indicate contingency, but I'm rolling with it.

As Aquinas would have it, God, being immaterial, is not individuated by anything distinct from his nature, and so there is no real distinction between God and his nature.

As the Bible would have it, God not only has parts, he has back parts.

Exodus 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

Normally this would be irrelevant but Aquinas is so fond of proof-texting.

OFC, saint toms god is not informed by the text of magic book, which is wildly inconsistent on more than just minor (and highly amusing) textual details.  It's a pagan god that he thought sounded smarter and so he decided to spend his life on a syncretic account of the same.  I tend to agree.  The "God of the Philosophers" is much smarter than the christian god, but were talking about degrees on a clown scale here...so...
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RE: The Principle of Contingent Causation: The Impossibility of Infinite Regress.
Since this is pertinent to what we've been discussing here, and it's worth a listen regardless of whether you agree or not, here is an interview with an [atheist] philosopher who holds to necessitarianism:



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