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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:20 am
Lol. Ok, keep telling yourself that mate. If Lincoln was not a Devout Christian, hardly anyone is.
"Whereas the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation; and
Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:21 am
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(July 26, 2023 at 1:03 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Nope, I soundly won it. Look at some of you Atheists declaring victory and thinking that means you won just by doing so, lol. Sorry, you need actual arguments for that: (1) Your famous Atheists like Darwin and Marx were Vicious Racists, while our (2) Devout Christians like Lincoln and Wilberforce were Wonderful Abolitionists, therefore we win, Christianity 100 - Atheism 0.
Why are you comparing us to people that are not like us? You whine about "vicious racists" but that doesn't mean that any of us are racists. You talk about Chinese Communists. I can't vouch for anyone else here, but I'm neither Chinese nor Communist.
Nishant Xavier, you have failed catastrophically in your mission by publicly bearing false witness against individuals whom you wouldn't even recognize if they walked right past you on the streets of Chennai. If I had to wager, I'd put $5.00 CDN on "Nishant Xavier will never go to confession to repent of his false witness against the members of Atheist Forums." You have brought shame upon your beliefs and your own name, and if I were Mother Mary I'd bitch-slap you into next Tuesday for being such an insufferable prick.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:23 am
Quote:Lol. Ok, keep telling yourself that mate. If Lincoln was not a Devout Christian, hardly anyone is.
Keep trying to find quotes to twist historic figures in your image
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:26 am
I never said you were a Racist, Astreja. I know you're not. I was talking about the Historical Contributions of who helped end Racism and Slavery, Christians or Atheists.
And we can take far greater exception to some of the things Atheists have said about us, but we'll pass over them.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:27 am
Yeah, that is a problem with Christianity today: all Christians have now are lies, but without weapons to force people into believing in them, all those lies fall flat.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:30 am
(July 26, 2023 at 1:26 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: I never said you were a Racist, Astreja. I know you're not.
Then stop bringing up racism as a purported trait of atheists, and never do it again.
You are not in any position to complain about the treatment you've received here. You've insulted us since the day you washed up on our shores, and it's absurd that you expect us to put up with that.
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:34 am
Quote:I never said you were a Racist, Astreja. I know you're not. I was talking about the Historical Contributions of who helped end Racism and Slavery, Christians or Atheists.
And you have failed miserably
Quote:And we can take far greater exception to some of the things Atheists have said about us, but we'll pass over them.
No, you can't as everything said about you is deserved
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:35 am
(July 26, 2023 at 1:26 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: I never said you were a Racist, Astreja. I know you're not. I was talking about the Historical Contributions of who helped end Racism and Slavery, Christians or Atheists.
And we can take far greater exception to some of the things Atheists have said about us, but we'll pass over them.
We can take far greater exception to what Christians have done to us, and other non-Christians over the years.
Were people in the past racist? Yes, they were.
Were people in the past arseholes? Yes, they were.
Were all great historical figures in Europe and America in the past 500 years Christians? Almost certainly not.
The American Founding Fathers were mostly, it seems, deists. And I can guarantee many political and scientific historical figures weren't Christians.
We know that if they had said they weren't, they would hsve been persecuted and shunned, at best.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:41 am
(July 26, 2023 at 1:20 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: Lol. Ok, keep telling yourself that mate. If Lincoln was not a Devout Christian, hardly anyone is.
First of all, I am not your mate, and I would never be a mate to a pedophile enabler like you.
Second, I am not telling it myself, but these are things that people who knew Lincoln said. From the previous link: "However, others who had known Lincoln for years, such as Ward Hill Lamon and William Herndon, rejected the idea that he was a believing Christian."
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: What has Christianity truly contributed to humanity
July 26, 2023 at 1:55 am
Mate is an expression, you Militant Atheist. I don't consider you a friend either, because only a genuine well-wisher is a friend, and you're not. You're a lying slanderer in calling me a pedophile enabler after I condemned it and I couldmore truly call you a Genocide-Enabler because you refused to condemn the ongoing Genocide and Persecution of 360 Million Christians that affects many of us Christians including Christians in India where I live.
If you read the below and seriously think the man who said this wasn't a Christian, you're hopelessly lost.
""Whereas the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation; and
Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;"
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